All, can anyone shead some light on this question,

What are the correct hands for a Waltham model 1892?

Thanks
Mike

Michael, I have four model 92's and they all have spade hands. The weight of hands should be appropriate to the type of dial. If the dial is RN, the spade hands should be the thin type. If the dial is Arabic, the size (weight) of the hands should be appropriate for the size of the numerals.

Hope this helps.

Tom

Tom,thanks for your reply. The dial on the movement is the Railroader type dial,are you familiar with it? Im unable to post a picture at this time.
Mike

Mike, I am not familiar with the dial you mean. Are the arabic numerals a large size, ie a heavy gothic dial, or are the numeral medium size?

Tom

Tom, in my opinion they are a "Bold" Aribic,when you say Heavy Gothic I tend to think of the Ilinois Sangamo Gothic numbers. No ,this Dial does not have numbers that resemble the gothic style of the Illinos dial. Here is an example of a similar dial.

Mike

MIke, I would think that medium weight spade hands would be very appropriate for that dial.

Tom

Tom ,not being very familar with Waltham hands,would you have an example you could post?


Thanks
Mike

Note Pic Added: I found this pic with google search, are these the hands you are reffering to?

Lindell, This first picture,would those be the Medium spade that Tom is reffering to?
Thanks

Lindell ,If I seek I shall find!! take a look at the post I found right here, the very last post.


https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/f...6047761/m/6351015422

I would say these are the hands I need to complete my watch. The dial is of the same style even though it is a differnt model movement. What say you? mike

My 18s 1892 Crescent Street has the exact same dial and hand match up as yours Lindell, and is probably my personal favorite in terms of over all appearance. It's easy to look at and read too!

My movement is currently awaiting the return of it's case from being replated.

Regards! Mark

Lindell, Yes, thats what Im looking for. I hope I can find a set of hands. The hunt is on!

Here are the proper hands as shown in the Waltham 1909 material catalog. Note the extra bold second hand.

Jerry,
Thank you for the P/Ns, the hunt is progressing. Im still searching.

I found a set of hands in PA. I should have them shortly. Thank you everybody for your help.

Mike

I am not sure how far those 1909 part numbers will get you. In the 1936 catalog the hour and minute hand for a '92 model are 1626 and 1688. They only show the second had for 16-size and its number is 1683.

Well its been a while since I've been here....the job has had me out of town for some time.

I've been wanting to post this for while .... here it is, an 18sz 17jewel Waltham Railroader...the S/N puts it in a run of the first 50, with 4 runs totaling 260 movements. The case is 4oz of coin silver by Blauer..the chain is Sterling Sliver and weighs about 6-7 oz. Thanks to all who helped me in my hunt for the parts and repairs to bring this watch back. Oh yeah it keeps RR time also,not bad for being 100 years old

Thank you to Leon Harris who did the repairs to the case........I highly recommend Leon!!!

BIG Thanks Lindell for sending me that killer original seconds hand!!!!

Lastly the matching Railroader movement number 7489835

Mike, Very nice watch and chain, it makes for a fantastic presentation.

Thanks for sharing it.

Rick

VERY nice Richard
Thx for sharing.

Gary

Wow Mike, That watch is SWEET!!

Joe

Mike, Got to thinking about your dial and hands for this example and said to myself... I got a Waltham CPR that's similar. So I dug it out and took a few pics. It's a model 83. s.n. 5742797, circa Feb. 1893. Just another example for comparison.

Joe

Picture of CPR movement.

Killer Watch Joe!!! Thanks for sharing.I wonder how many more are out there??? Come on IHC members Lets see em!!

OK everybody...I asking for some help.

I am asking the membership if anyone out there may have a clue or further documentation on these watches. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Hi Michael

It appears to me it's just a 17j RR grade of the 1892 model intended for railroad men. Ditto for the 1888 Railroader. I find listings in Railroad Timekeeping that Lindell mentioned (#s 38 & 83), American Pocket Watches by Ehrhardt & Meggers, & Townsend's American Railroad Watches. No indication they're special orders, probably just named to appeal to RR men.

Norman

Hi Norman.... thats what I thought also "just a name that appealed to RR Men". I have to admit its fun searching for information. Youre correct its a 1892 movement,but the markings make it rare. I think the total production was 260 movements with these markings.