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| IHC Member 376 Watchmaker  |
Here is one I got from ebay the pictures were not too good so i took a change,,it worked out okay both the movement and dial are what i would grade avg.+ condition there is a few flaws on the dial and some scratches on the movement but still nice enough i think.. This is a Waltham model 1883 movement cresent street grade hunting case movement. Can,t decide what style of hands it needs the ones that came on it were mismatched..  | ||
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| IHC Member 376 Watchmaker |
The movement needs some of the black restored but overall not a bad movement i think it will clean up okay at least it does run.  | |||
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| IHC Member 376 Watchmaker |
up a little closer these are fancy movements with some of the nicest damaskeening that was availbe on the American movements.  | |||
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| IHC President Life Member  |
Beautiful item Samie! According to the late James L. Hernick in his book "Railroad Timekeeping" which included watches and clocks featured at the Rockford, Illinois 1996 Seminar, these unusual "Santa-Fe Route" watches were exclusively sold to employees of the Santa-Fe Railway by Henry S. Montgomery, their Chief Time Inspector. Interestingly Montgomery was issued Trade-Mark Number 28,674 on July 28, 1896 for "Santa-Fe Route" marketing purposes. The image shown in Jim's book is an Open-Face 18-Size number 6035731 that is very similar to yours. We'll all look forward to seeing your progress on this one.  | |||
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...great find Samie!!! | |||
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| IHC Life Member Wristwatch Host  |
Samie, Love those model 1883 movements. Tony | |||
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Wondering out loud here, but would this dial setup be correct for the Santa Fe movement also? Or would a Santa Fe Route dial be the only correct dial? This on a Santa Fe Route 17 jewel movement serial #7454XXX. thx Gary  | |||
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| IHC President Life Member |
Gary, my impression is that like Ball Brotherhoods the "Santa-Fe Route" movements more than likely all came with what amounts to a matching dial. If that's correct someone may have taken the dial from yours, put it on another Waltham to have an additional "Santa-Fe Route" to sell or it is residing in someone's dial collection. The "Santa-Fe Route" watches listed shown in Jim Hernick's "Railroad Timekeeping" have marked dials and a dial was something less than a dollar back then. Number 76 in the book is an 1892 Waltham with a Montgomery Patent dial marked "Santa-Fe Railway System, Standard Dial" and Waltham just above the seconds register. Here's another interesting style of "Santa-Fe Route" dial...  | |||
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