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I would like to see some other Lancaster Watch Co. movements. They interest me because they were a forerunner to the Hamilton Company. ![]() | |||
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I suppose the Aurora Company has as much claim as Lancaster, but neither of them resemble the later Hamiltons at all. ![]() | ||||
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This seems like pretty humble origins for what the Hamilton Company was to become. I would like to see some other Lancaster watches, though, if someone could post them. ![]() | ||||
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I have always liked the little window they made in those movements, I have yet to own one but am always tempted when I see them for sale. Tom | |||
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This is a Lancaster "New Era" KWKS that I did rercently and posted | |||
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The movement has the "beginnings" of Hamilton stuff with a "full circle" Pallet Bridge ![]() | |||
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That is a cool watch, Dave! | ||||
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Back to the roots of hamilton. Has someone a photo of an "Adams & Perry" Lancaster watch? Regards Gerald ![]() | ||||
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"Now ya Done it", I remembered I had a couple of these "Dustproof" things, so after about an hour of rummage I found 1 and it is trying to run! So, mebbe I can do a pictorial restoration . . . ![]() | |||
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All right, David! Your pictorial restorations are a great teaching tool. | |||
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These are very interesting watches, I think. In the days before paved roads it was probably even more important to make them dust proof. Steve G. | ||||
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The SPL of a Steam Locomotive was about 80 - 100 dBa. At 15 PSI, 100 dBa of 20 Hz sound is about a 50% SPL shockwave or about 7.5 PSI. With that "pumping" both the front and back covers of an engineers watch in a Locomotive cab, it is Gonna Get Dirty just by breathing volumes of air and coal dust and other crud through the winding stem. ![]() | |||
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Hmmmm! I suppose that's why they had to have frequent periodic inspections and service. That makes sense. Thanks. Steve G. | ||||
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Well . . Tonight I got this disassembly going of the "Dustproof" Keystone. When Steve posted his pictures of the "Dustproof", he mused; "I suppose the Aurora Company has as much claim as Lancaster, but neither of them resemble the later Hamiltons at all." Steve, there are a couple common points with this to the Hamiltons after all. First . . . The Dust Ring is Fully Machined the same as Hamiltons were. This is quite unique to these watches as most dust rings were cheaper stamped and rolled method parts . . . | |||
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The other most obvious "signature" part of the family to become "Hamilton" is the Pallet Bridge (or "cock") which is a full circle ring, quite uniquely Keystone/Lancaster/Hamilton . . . | |||
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Swing out Dust Cap for the Balance wheel has a Cold Solderd in Mica "Window', Cute, Expensive and fundamentally a waste of money except to advertise it is there. ![]() | |||
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As the Pallet Staff is Not Jeweled, this is a ten (10) Jewel movement, with 1 Roller Pin, 2 Balance staff Pivots, 2 Balance Staff Caps, two Pallet Stones, and 3 pressed in "Swiss" friction Jewels (mostly for show). That said, it still has 4 Mean Time Screws! | |||
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Oh, I found a couple other things left inside the movement by the last service person. ![]() I expect to report the reassembly later this week, but have no plans to re-use these two "parts". ![]() | |||
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Dave, That is too funny - those "additional" items! ![]() Debbie ![]() | |||
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This is a fascinating analysis of the general, and personal character of this watch. I think you should publish a weekly column like this and take a different watch apart each week. It could be like the Tappit Brothers on the radio! Steve G. | ||||
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Now comes the "Put Together" part . . . Firstly, more odd notes, a three-piece "SCREW-TOGETHER" Pallet Fork!(first one for me that actually used a screw!) Then there is the strange Balance Cock Regulator that is actually "just like the pictures" in the Patent! Ugly and complicated! In re-assembly, the wheel train turns out to actually be a 16 size. About the only "big part" is the motor. Oddly in this watch it is safer to place and assemble the Pallet Fork/Bridge set before putting down the top plate! All in all, I would bet that there were many watch makers who charge a premium cleaning fee for the Keystone "dustless! It takes about twice the time as "normal". ![]() | |||
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On the "wind and set side" it is completely different from any other I have seen, and easier to reassemble. It uses a very unique "Teeter-Totter" rocking bar mounted transfer wheel to engage the time setting. ![]() | |||
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It goes together very nicely in the (what looks to be) original "Daisy" Hunter Case ![]() | |||
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Don't ask me how, but two years ago, I got this (somewhere ![]() A swell deal after a couple hours work to clean it up and get it running. ![]() | |||
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What a beautiful watch! I'd bet that was the highest grade they made. What do you think? | ||||
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Dave, what turns out to be a super looking watch....As they say.... From out of the ashes comes.... Great job on another restoration piece.... Regards, Jerry | |||
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Steve and Jerry, I agree, it turned out beautifully and will remain with my personal "stash" as representative of that phase of watch evolution. A watch that had all the disadvantages of an early full plate movement including full disassembly to replace the mainspring. Plus added design features that made the "3/4 plate" design laborious and hazardous to service. That must explain the short life of this particular watch movement. All that said, it keeps darn good time and is reeeeeel purdy! | |||
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