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IHC Member 537
Picture of Jeffrey Tibbs
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Hello

Just wanted to ask a favor of the South Bend Community. I have never seen a 180 movement.
If anyone has a 180 , could you post a pic of the movement? Thanks in advance, and thanks to all here who add to the continuing education of us newbies.
 
Posts: 166 | Location: Dublin, Ohio in the USA | Registered: June 04, 2005
IHC Life Member
South-Bend
Picture of Frank Kusumoto
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Jeffrey,

I've never seen a complete 180. I have this "piece" of a 180 that I found in a junk pile.

Best,

Frank "407" Kusumoto

 
Posts: 1029 | Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A. | Registered: October 08, 2004
IHC President
Life Member
Picture of Lindell V. Riddle
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The Grade 180 was South-Bend's top 6-size movement.

We believe production of the 6-size which was based upon a Columbus Watch Company design and used their tooling began in 1902 at the Columbus facility. There were only 1,000 numbers blocked for the 17-Jewel 180 so today they can be a very difficult item to find. I look forward to seeing Brian's and any others that may be around. Please post an image or at least the movement number of any of these you might have or be aware of.


Here is 180 number 389071 from my collection...


 
Posts: 10552 | Location: Northeastern Ohio in the USA | Registered: November 19, 2002
IHC Member 537
Picture of Jeffrey Tibbs
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Thanks Frank , Lin , Brian for the pics. Not a lot of difference from the 160. I have toggled back and forth, so I'll post a pic to compare.

Thanks again for the Education guys

Jeff

 
Posts: 166 | Location: Dublin, Ohio in the USA | Registered: June 04, 2005
IHC Member 107
Picture of Brian C.
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Here are some pics of mine. Sorry for the bad pictures, I'd rather try and straighten a hair spring than take pictures.
Brian C.

 
Posts: 1857 | Location: Epsom, New Hampshire USA | Registered: December 14, 2002
IHC Member 107
Picture of Brian C.
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Posts: 1857 | Location: Epsom, New Hampshire USA | Registered: December 14, 2002
IHC Member 107
Picture of Brian C.
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Posts: 1857 | Location: Epsom, New Hampshire USA | Registered: December 14, 2002
IHC Member 107
Picture of Brian C.
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Posts: 1857 | Location: Epsom, New Hampshire USA | Registered: December 14, 2002
IHC Life Member
South-Bend
Picture of Frank Kusumoto
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Another one shows up!

 
Posts: 1029 | Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A. | Registered: October 08, 2004
IHC Member 537
Picture of Jeffrey Tibbs
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Thanks to Lindell , Brian and Frank for posting these pics. I had seen the 160 and 170, but not this watch.

Jeff
 
Posts: 166 | Location: Dublin, Ohio in the USA | Registered: June 04, 2005
IHC Life Member
South-Bend
Picture of Frank Kusumoto
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And yet another one. Picked up pretty cheap because the seller refused to open up the back of the case and list the serial number.

 
Posts: 1029 | Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A. | Registered: October 08, 2004
Picture of Ernie Loga
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Here is my 180 number 388403.

 
Posts: 900 | Location: Wisconsin in the U.S.A. | Registered: April 28, 2008
Picture of Ernie Loga
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Here is the dial. The watch came in an oversized open face silveroid case. I don't know if it had been recased but there are no other case screw marks.

 
Posts: 900 | Location: Wisconsin in the U.S.A. | Registered: April 28, 2008
IHC Life Member
South-Bend
Picture of Frank Kusumoto
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Ernie, that's most likely a recase. I'm fairly certain that it was originally in a hunter case. The outstanding feature of your watch is the dial. From the script style on it is original and a very nice example.
 
Posts: 1029 | Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A. | Registered: October 08, 2004
Picture of Ernie Loga
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Hi Frank:

I have a real nice Hunter case I got with a parts Columbus watch. I tried to put the movement into it but the stem diamter is too large and it will not slide into the watch. That reallty surprised me because I thought the SB 180 was basically made from Columbus left over parts.
 
Posts: 900 | Location: Wisconsin in the U.S.A. | Registered: April 28, 2008
IHC Life Member
South-Bend
Picture of Frank Kusumoto
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Weeeeeeeell, yes it was but some/many parts were modified.

Now one big caveat here is that all 6S Columbus' are NOT created equal. Some are set up for positive stems and some for negative. The gear train is pretty much the same but many of the other parts have slight variations through the years.

Anyways, I would have just filed down the stem until it fit the SB. Problem solved. :-)
 
Posts: 1029 | Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A. | Registered: October 08, 2004
Picture of Ernie Loga
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Frank:

I decided that I could file down the stem as you suggested but when I opened the hunter case the stem was laying on the bottom of the case. I have not seen a stem like this before. It appears that the stem fits into another sleeve at the crown. It fits into the crwon only one way. What do you say?

At least it should not be a problem filing down if I get the right end.

 
Posts: 900 | Location: Wisconsin in the U.S.A. | Registered: April 28, 2008
IHC Life Member
South-Bend
Picture of Frank Kusumoto
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From your description it sounds like it is modifiable. Are there any particular problems you forsee? I've never seen one like that before either, at least that I can recollect.
 
Posts: 1029 | Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A. | Registered: October 08, 2004
Picture of Ernie Loga
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Frank:

My first inclination was that the stem was broken. But after examination it appears that it was made that way. When I put it back in the sleeve it only fit in one direction. When I turned the crown the stem turned so I am assuming it should work.

I have been too busy to try reducing it down right now. When I get it done I will post the results again.
 
Posts: 900 | Location: Wisconsin in the U.S.A. | Registered: April 28, 2008
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