Internet Horology Club 185
Anyone have a pic of the South Bend 180
July 25, 2006, 21:41
Jeffrey TibbsAnyone have a pic of the South Bend 180
Hello
Just wanted to ask a favor of the South Bend Community. I have never seen a 180 movement.
If anyone has a 180 , could you post a pic of the movement? Thanks in advance, and thanks to all here who add to the continuing education of us newbies.
July 25, 2006, 22:46
Frank KusumotoJeffrey,
I've never seen a complete 180. I have this "piece" of a 180 that I found in a junk pile.
Best,
Frank "407" Kusumoto
July 26, 2006, 17:01
Lindell V. Riddle
The Grade 180 was South-Bend's top 6-size movement.
We believe production of the 6-size which was based upon a Columbus Watch Company design and used their tooling began in 1902 at the Columbus facility. There were only 1,000 numbers blocked for the 17-Jewel 180 so today they can be a very difficult item to find. I look forward to seeing Brian's and any others that may be around. Please post an image or at least the movement number of any of these you might have or be aware of.
Here is 180 number 389071 from my collection...July 26, 2006, 21:36
Jeffrey TibbsThanks Frank , Lin , Brian for the pics. Not a lot of difference from the 160. I have toggled back and forth, so I'll post a pic to compare.
Thanks again for the Education guys
Jeff
July 30, 2006, 07:46
Brian C.Here are some pics of mine. Sorry for the bad pictures, I'd rather try and straighten a hair spring than take pictures.
Brian C.
July 30, 2006, 07:49
Brian C.Pic 2
July 30, 2006, 07:50
Brian C.Pic 3
July 30, 2006, 07:51
Brian C.Pic 4
September 09, 2006, 19:33
Frank KusumotoAnother one shows up!
September 11, 2006, 10:53
Jeffrey TibbsThanks to Lindell , Brian and Frank for posting these pics. I had seen the 160 and 170, but not this watch.
Jeff
March 07, 2008, 07:20
Frank KusumotoAnd yet another one. Picked up pretty cheap because the seller refused to open up the back of the case and list the serial number.
January 05, 2009, 09:58
Ernie LogaHere is my 180 number 388403.
January 05, 2009, 10:06
Ernie LogaHere is the dial. The watch came in an oversized open face silveroid case. I don't know if it had been recased but there are no other case screw marks.
February 04, 2009, 14:04
Frank KusumotoErnie, that's most likely a recase. I'm fairly certain that it was originally in a hunter case. The outstanding feature of your watch is the dial. From the script style on it is original and a very nice example.
February 04, 2009, 23:50
Ernie LogaHi Frank:
I have a real nice Hunter case I got with a parts Columbus watch. I tried to put the movement into it but the stem diamter is too large and it will not slide into the watch. That reallty surprised me because I thought the SB 180 was basically made from Columbus left over parts.
February 10, 2009, 06:08
Frank KusumotoWeeeeeeeell, yes it was but some/many parts were modified.
Now one big caveat here is that all 6S Columbus' are NOT created equal. Some are set up for positive stems and some for negative. The gear train is pretty much the same but many of the other parts have slight variations through the years.
Anyways, I would have just filed down the stem until it fit the SB. Problem solved. :-)
February 10, 2009, 09:33
Ernie LogaFrank:
I decided that I could file down the stem as you suggested but when I opened the hunter case the stem was laying on the bottom of the case. I have not seen a stem like this before. It appears that the stem fits into another sleeve at the crown. It fits into the crwon only one way. What do you say?
At least it should not be a problem filing down if I get the right end.
February 11, 2009, 09:34
Frank KusumotoFrom your description it sounds like it is modifiable. Are there any particular problems you forsee? I've never seen one like that before either, at least that I can recollect.
February 11, 2009, 10:14
Ernie LogaFrank:
My first inclination was that the stem was broken. But after examination it appears that it was made that way. When I put it back in the sleeve it only fit in one direction. When I turned the crown the stem turned so I am assuming it should work.
I have been too busy to try reducing it down right now. When I get it done I will post the results again.