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Found at an estate sale

Movement is built with such craftsmanship - amazing work. Even the "dustcover" has such class

 
Posts: 7178 | Location: Illinois in the USA | Registered: November 11, 2011


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Roughly 48.6 mm across the front of the case - not factoring in pendant

Made in the late 1600's?

 
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Jon

Indeed a pieco of craftmanship of it's own - in a double sense:

Inner part of a pair case watch; fusee verge; swiss/french made ca 1790.

This type of watch is called 'dutch forgerie'. They were intented for the dutch market, the names affecting a british make. The appearance of the watch is not english at all: it has a balance bridge and all the works are in the continental style.

Rose and Son, London was a fictive name used on those watches (other watches of this type are signed with the (fake) names of famous watchmakers.
Funny enough - you may find an entry of 'Rose and Son' in Bailly or Loomes but not with life-facts. There are just notations of watches and clocks named in such manner that bacame part of famous collections - don't get confused !

Even if they are 'forgeries' they are collectible.
They are genuine verge fusee watches 200+ years old and handmade.

The ebauches of this watch were made by Japy (french Jura):



Regards
Gerald

raw movement by Japy
 
Posts: 742 | Location: Wertheim in Germany | Registered: February 21, 2009
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Jon

I checked Bailly's 'Old clocks and watches and their makers' :
Rose,Joseph and Son,19 Foster Lane 1765-68
Rose,Joseph,son and Payne,17 Foster Lane 1771-94

our member Tom Brown had a Pocket watch years ago:

Tom's pocket watch

This watch has the british style of this time.

And here another example of a 'dutch forgerie'

anther name, same watch

Regards
Gerald
 
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Gerald,

Looked at the one Tom posted a few years back, his is much prettier Smile

The whole 'dutch forgerei' concept is somewhat vexing, but interesting nonetheless.
 
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