I would like to ask if anyone can explain what the difference is between the standard 17J A.T.& Co. 1892 model, and the A.T.& Co. "Premier". I know that the standard model was a 3-position watch, and I've heard that the Premier could be 5-position adjusted.Is that true? I've never seen an old ad for a Premier grade to see if any different features were listed for it.Is the damaskeen pattern or overall finish work better on the Premier? Thanks....Ted Brown.

Ted

I am not familar with the watch but thought I would post what Ehrhardt shows. It lists the AT&Co 1892 as adjusted & the Premier as adjusted 3 positions.

Tom

After I posted the above, I found these images on the web, apparently Ehrhardt's book is wrong or I misread it.

The plain AT&Co

The one on the left is 1897,. and on the right is 1901, they both have the same damaskeening as do about 7 more ATCo's in my "bunch", and they all advertise as "P" grade. So what I need to know is how do we determine the "Premier" from the "rabble"?

You can't see it in the ad that Tom posted about the Premier, but I found a larger version of the same ad and Premier is actually engraved on the barrel plate.

From searching images on the web it would appear the Premier grades have that engraved on the movement.

Thanks, Tom, Mary-Ann,& Dave.I see that the only apparent difference is the 5 position adjustment on the "Premier".Mine is The standard model, it also has the same damaskeening pattern as the ones you show.They, like all 1892's , are a beautiful movement.