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Hi, I'm working on putting together a collection of Hamilton factory cases with the correct movement, case, dial, hands as it would have been cased from the factory. I've been using the info on IHC to help determine if the watches are factory cased. The watch in question is a Hamilton model #7 in a WGF case #75787 with a 992E movement #2622109. The movement is from 1938 to 1939. I can't find info on what year the case is. According to what I could find in 1938 and 1939 a 992E was factory cased in a model 2 and 10 only. Maybe I'm just not using all the info available to me on IHC and it's in plain site but I haven't come across it. I'm finding new stuff everyday and still learning to navigate around this great site. Is this watch below correct? Thanks Rick | ||
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Richard, About that Case 7 numbered 75787 housing 2622109 in my opinion that is a somewhat later movement than the (introduced in 1930) Case 7 availability. I have a Case 7 numbered 76532 in my collection and it houses an early 992 Elinvar from 1931 production. Many of the earliest 992 Elinvars are in Case 7 and Case 8 from what we have found and believe to be correct examples. By 1937 the Case 7 dies had been shipped to Canada where they were used to press Canadian Content Cases through the mid-1950s which might be an interesting point to consider. Check the information in "Hamilton 992, 992E, and 992B Case & Dial Identification. (1924-1971)" and below this post is some work I did on case introduction dates a few years ago, perhaps that would be of help to you and others. Lindell  _________________________________________ Hamilton Factory Railroad Case Manufacturers and Introduction Dates... _________________________________________ Model 1 Wadsworth - "Crossbar" - 1924 Model 2 Wadsworth - 1925 Model 3 Fahys - 1926 Model 4 Fahys - 1927 Model 5 Keystone - 1928 Model 6 Fahys - 1929 Model 7 Keystone - 1930 Model 8 Wadsworth - 1931 Model 9 Fahys - 1932 Model 10 Wadsworth - 1936 "Mainliner" Keystone (MARKED HAMILTON used only on 950-Elinvar Models) - 1937 through 1940 Model A Keystone (WITH "shoulders" below pendant) - 1940 Model 11 Keystone (WITH "shoulders" below pendant) - 1940 Model 12 Star (Both "Defiance" and "10K Gold Filled" versions) - 1946 Number 3 - Wadsworth - 1946 (Actually case Model 13 but superstition caused 13 to not be used) Model A Keystone (WITHOUT "shoulders" below pendant) - 1948 Model 11 Keystone (WITHOUT "shoulders" below pendant) - 1948 Model 14 Keystone - 1949 Model 15 Star - 1950 Model 16 Star - 1951 Model 17 Keystone marked "Railroad 17" inside case-back - 1956 Model 17 Star - 1957 __________________________________________ NOTE: Both the A and the 11 began with "shoulders" below the pendant, the shoulders were removed beginning in 1948 and subsequently. NOTE: Dates are either exact or a very close approximation. Not shown above... Model B - 1943-44 Model C - 1943-44 __________________________________________ | |||
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This is a really cool "short list" of post 1924 Hamilton factory-cased watches. Now, what would also be very interesting would be to get an idea of which pre-1925 Hamiltons were or may have been cased in Hamilton factory cases. For instance, I have a ca. 1919-1920 950, movement serial # 1375938, housed in a clam-shell Hamilton "Permanent" case # 10881285. The antique dealer I bought it from was pretty confident that the case was original to the movement, given the provenance the original seller provided. Anyone aware of any data on this issue? Perhaps some original research is in order . . . | |||
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Lindell, The watch I posted is one that I'm considering buying and it is from a guy in Canada. I don't know any of its history but will see if he does. If I understand you correctly, it is still possible to be correct but the case would be made in Canada?? I have so much to learn. It's only been a couple of months since I started getting serious about collecting Hamilton watches and learning about them. Rick | |||
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