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Elgin grade 114 and 135 case

I have a question about what hunter cases were used for an Elgin 114 and 135 grade movement? I have COA two movements from 1889 and 1899 and they are in great shape and running string and I wanted to get cases for them. They are lever set and the lever is at the 4.5 position. This seems to be different from standard cases as I have tried to put them in a standard case for a side winder but the cutout does not fit. Any suggestions would be great
thank you,
Larry
 
Posts: 81 | Location: Maryland in the USA | Registered: October 22, 2019
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Larry those are both model 3's. Elgin 16s models 1-5 are actually more like 16.5 size, and take a slightly larger case.

I have a handfull of these watches. Great movements! The cases are not easy to find but they are out there. You may want to see one in hand before purchasing, buying one from a listing or pictures can be tricky.

Before the standard thinner size you see around the turn of the century, Elgin, Hampden, illinois and I'm sure others used this slightly larger size.

Look for the older ball crowns. The hunters will have stems held in by screws. Good luck in your search!

The ones I have are older Fahys, Keystone, Dueber, Brooklyn watch case co...
 
Posts: 90 | Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the USA | Registered: December 07, 2019
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Here's some examples

Keystone coin silver hunter case, and then one I did just like you, nice movement I cleaned and oiled and unscrupulously recased it as a sidewinder in a Philadelphia nickel case.

 
Posts: 90 | Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the USA | Registered: December 07, 2019
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Sidewinder, don't mind my dirty table please!! Haha

 
Posts: 90 | Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the USA | Registered: December 07, 2019
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I also think that these earlier Models were a little thicker as well and will not fit in the slightly thinner cases made back in the day, as you can not tighten down the movement with the case screwsSmile
 
Posts: 2262 | Location: Gladstone in Australia | Registered: January 14, 2011
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I have one Mint Hunter Gold filled case a grade 114 came out of. It is available if you want it. It is extremely nice.


Harry
 
Posts: 3850 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
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Harry do you have any images of it and how much do you want for it?

Larry
 
Posts: 81 | Location: Maryland in the USA | Registered: October 22, 2019
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Larry I can take some pictures tomorrow and post them. You may not be interested but I will post. It is one of the nicest cases I have ever owned. I would take $125 for it and $5 shipping. I am not an elgin collector and don't know anything about the grade 114 but I am not sure it would be worth the price of the case. It is mint. Let me know before I take the pictures tomorrow if you are not interested and I will not bother with the pictures.

Thanks,
Harry
 
Posts: 3850 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
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Don't want to butt in Harry, but if Larry decides not to go ahead with the purchase let me know and I will take it if it is as good as thatSmile

Cheers,
Bila
 
Posts: 2262 | Location: Gladstone in Australia | Registered: January 14, 2011
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I will post some pictures Bila. I have not heard from Larry yet. So I will wait a little longer and I will post some pictures in the meantime.

Harry
 
Posts: 3850 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
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Thanks for that Harry, Larry does take a little time to get back mate noticing some of his other posts. So he might not frequent here regularly, he will probably need a little more time then most.
 
Posts: 2262 | Location: Gladstone in Australia | Registered: January 14, 2011
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Thanks Bila you will have first refusal once I hear from Larry. I will give him another day.

Harry
 
Posts: 3850 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
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Here are the pictures. Being extremely picky it is dirty. The screw on the pendant looks to be another screw and there are some scratches on front and rear cover in the center that should polish out easily and some scratches where you open the dust cover. All very not noticable and I am being very picky. The covers open to 90 degrees. I don't see any wear or dents. Should look fantastic polished and it has a female winding stem which you probably already know.

Harry

 
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Thanks for the photos Harry, I will take it if Larry decides not to mate.

CheersSmile
 
Posts: 2262 | Location: Gladstone in Australia | Registered: January 14, 2011
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You got it mate. Hopefully Larry will see it soon.

Harry
 
Posts: 3850 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
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Harry,
Thanks for the images. Yes I will take it. Do you take PayPal? If so let me know where to send the payment.
Larry
 
Posts: 81 | Location: Maryland in the USA | Registered: October 22, 2019
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Hi Larry,

Please give me your shipping address and the total will be $130 and once I have your address I will print the label and get it right out to you.

Sorry Bila but Larry wants the case. Thanks for the interest.

Harry
 
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All good Harry, glad it went to Larry, a very nice caseSmile
 
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Thanks Bila!
 
Posts: 3850 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
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Harry

Thank you so much,

Larry
 
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Technically this offering should have taken place in our IHC185 Trading Mart.

Since this is a public forum open to the world - the confidential information relating to eMails, addresses and PayPal have been removed.


Dr. Deborah L. Irvine
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Membership and Marts Coordinator

Contact eMail: ihc185@roadrunner.com

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Posts: 5207 | Location: Northern Ohio in the U.S.A. | Registered: December 04, 2002
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Thank you Debbie for looking out for us. It just kind of evolved into this. Sorry.

Harry
 
Posts: 3850 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
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Thank you Larry it will go out tomorrow.

Harry
 
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You are welcome Harry!

 
Posts: 5207 | Location: Northern Ohio in the U.S.A. | Registered: December 04, 2002
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Also sorry for the trouble. Just wanted information and it turned out Harry Had one. Also thank you for looking out for us.
Larry
 
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Larry,

You are welcome, too!

 
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