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I have just come across the term "Blindman Montgomery dial." Is this the same as a "Montgomery dial?" What is the significance of the Blindman terminology?

Thanks

Tim


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Posts: 8 | Location: Florida in the USA | Registered: January 19, 2019
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The only thing I could think of is a term referring to large bold numbers where the earlier Montgomery dials had main number that were less bold. The numbers became bolder, fatter, larger or whatever term you want to use and saying they were blindman probably referred to the fact you could have poor vision and still see the main numbers.
 
Posts: 1789 | Location: Michigan in the USA | Registered: September 19, 2009
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They probably came up with the name because the numbers are so large that even a blindman could see them. IMHO. You don't see a Monty6 Blindman that often.

Harry
 
Posts: 3850 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
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Timothy - As Claude mentioned, the "Blind Man" terminology refers to a dial featuring larger and heavy numerals.

For visual reference and comparison, here is a dial page from the 1920 Hamilton Material List. The first dial (#576) is described as "Extra heavy Arabic or "Blind Mans"" while the dial below (#436) is simply described as "Heavy Arabic."

And if you want a truly uncommon Montgomery dial, find a watch fitted with dial #585.

Hamilton 1920 Catalog - Dial Page
 
Posts: 49 | Location: Tennessee in the USA | Registered: February 20, 2012
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If you look at the two dials to the left 576, 436 and compare them to 530 and 531 you see the difference in the look. 576 and 436 most would call "blind man's dial". 581A most would call 'blind man's Montgomery Canadian (or 24hr))and the font on 436 is nearly identical to 581A. The true "blind man's dial had raised spots with a locator for 12 which has more than one raised spots and some have the same from 3/6/9 and called "braille dial". Some have 3 spots for 12 and two for 3/6/9 and one for the other numbers.
 
Posts: 1789 | Location: Michigan in the USA | Registered: September 19, 2009
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All great information. Thanks for all the responses. I see that none of the dials have "Railway Special" written under Hamilton. When did they start making the watches with the railway special written on the face?

Additionally I am looking for a 992B Railway Special with a Monte dial. If anyone has one they want to sell please let me know. There is a long story attached to my need but the short story is that that particular watch has sentimental value to me.

Thanks again to all.

Tim


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Posts: 8 | Location: Florida in the USA | Registered: January 19, 2019
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depending on the year a good 992B dial might be tough to come by because the later ones are melamine and age crack badly.
 
Posts: 1789 | Location: Michigan in the USA | Registered: September 19, 2009
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Posts: 5199 | Location: Northern Ohio in the U.S.A. | Registered: December 04, 2002
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Timothy, the dials signed HAMILTON RAILWAY SPECIAL
appeared in 1940 along with the all new 992B. But
not all movements had these dials. Some had dials
with HAMILTON in block not the script style of
earlier movements.
Hope this helps.

Roger
 
Posts: 4085 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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Tim I think the dial you are referring to is the Hamilton 522 or 537 dials listed on this site under Hamilton 992, 992b, and the 992E dials. I don't know if you can look at that section or not without becoming a member.

 
Posts: 3850 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
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Thanks for all the great information.

Tim


timothy white
 
Posts: 8 | Location: Florida in the USA | Registered: January 19, 2019
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Tim contacted me about wanting to buy a 992B with a Montgomery dial, I'm the one that used the term 'blindman montgomery" when describing the watch to him. As stated above this term describes the extra bold arabic numerals on this dial.

So here's the dial in question: As Harry stated it is indeed a #522 dial and not a bad looking example.

Also, as Roger posted some dials like this 522 appeared on early 992Bs as well, this one is a 1941 example and has the correct Model 11 case.

Tim, I also suggest you join this group as there is a wealth of information available here and the membership dues will pay for themselves many times over.



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Tim, I have several 992B's with Monty dials.
 
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New to this forum. How do you send a PM? Thanks!
 
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Steve, you cannot send a PM on this site. You'll need to just reply here or click on the members name
you want to get hold of and should see an email addreess.


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