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Here is a Hamilton #308,698. This number is not listed in Ehrhardt's serial numbers list.

 
Posts: 827 | Location: Bloomington, Illinois in the USA | Registered: September 29, 2008
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The movement does resemble the grade 970 which is illustrated in the book. Is this a 970? The regulator spring is missing, and do you think the wheel has been replaced on the mainspring barrel?

 
Posts: 827 | Location: Bloomington, Illinois in the USA | Registered: September 29, 2008
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Excuse me. I found the complete chart. This is a 990. How do you think this compares to a 992?
 
Posts: 827 | Location: Bloomington, Illinois in the USA | Registered: September 29, 2008
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Steve,
this is a grade 990... Smile
 
Posts: 185 | Location: Lexington, Kentucky in the USA | Registered: September 02, 2008
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I think only 10,200 made in grade 990..
 
Posts: 185 | Location: Lexington, Kentucky in the USA | Registered: September 02, 2008
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Gee, that's the fastest response I've ever gotten! You guys sure are fast on the draw! Thanks!
 
Posts: 827 | Location: Bloomington, Illinois in the USA | Registered: September 29, 2008
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This was my father-in-law's watch. He was wearing it when he died. It is important to me for more than one reason. Thanks, Andrea.
 
Posts: 827 | Location: Bloomington, Illinois in the USA | Registered: September 29, 2008
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Your watch is listed in the price guide as a 990. You can see the similarity to the Brand New one Lindell posted last year after he went back in his time machine to get it. Also the click wheel had been replaced on the one you picture.

 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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Your father had very good taste. Carry this and you will stay "in tune and on time" too!
 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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I wondered about that. What are my chances of getting the correct one?
 
Posts: 827 | Location: Bloomington, Illinois in the USA | Registered: September 29, 2008
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I think I have a regulator spring that fits that. As for the click wheel, as it is also in a major repair job case, if it was me and it was my Dad's watch I would leave it "as-is" as I am sure there is a reason behind all of it's "idiosyncrasies".
Cool
 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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Yes, I think you are right, David. I would appreciate it if you could check on that spring for me. Let me know what you find. Thanks once again!

Steve
 
Posts: 827 | Location: Bloomington, Illinois in the USA | Registered: September 29, 2008
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David

Do you know if it is possible that the wheel was put on upside down, I have never tried that but I wonder if someone could have done that.

Tom
 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Steve,

Your father-in-law had excellent taste, evidently his daughter followed suit. Smile

But seriously, my understanding is the Hamilton 990 was considered to be a somewhat higher grade than the 992 and today is far more highly prized by collectors.

The finish on that plain wheel is what we normally associate with lesser grades such as a 974 and we find this style were and are sold as replacements. It may be possible to find something closer on a parts movement or someone may have one loose. Tom's speculation is interesting and yes I have seen that done but this particular one is simply mismatched.

Good news, the whip-spring and screw will be fairly easy to find.

Lindell

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Posts: 10553 | Location: Northeastern Ohio in the USA | Registered: November 19, 2002
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Lindell

Thanks for letting me know about the wheel, I had never thought about that until I saw the watch in this post & I just wondered if that was possible.

Tom
 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
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Well, thanks so much, everyone, for your observations. I didn't realize that this was a higher (even slightly) grade watch than the 992. I might start to carry it on occasion.

Steve
 
Posts: 827 | Location: Bloomington, Illinois in the USA | Registered: September 29, 2008
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IN my highly prejudiced opinion I think the 992 was a "cost-cutter" version of the 990

 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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Steve, I checked and I have some of those. It looks like the original spring attachment screw was broken off, maybe by the same BOZO who messed up the jewel screws. I will send you a new whip, but I recommend that you have someone knock out the broken screw and then clean and regulate this beauty. I will send the whip wherever you plan to do that.
 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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Thanks a lot, David. Please let me know what I owe you.
 
Posts: 827 | Location: Bloomington, Illinois in the USA | Registered: September 29, 2008
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Nice one, Steve. Cherish and protect it.

Here's my 990, it's a bit later than yours. I love this craftsmanship!


©harles


 
Posts: 134 | Location: South New Jersey in the USA | Registered: April 11, 2008
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Beautiful watch! Thanks. I wonder if they started making this grade before they made the 992.

Steve
 
Posts: 827 | Location: Bloomington, Illinois in the USA | Registered: September 29, 2008
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Steve, By the looks of it, I think the 990 came first or was (at least) a "premium" 992 type movement!

For the parts (I added an assembly screw that fit a 990 here tho it is not the "rounded head" kind), please e-mail me your address etc to david@glopar.com and then after you get the parts just donate whatever you think it is worth to the IHC185 legal recovery fund. (It's a little dusty, but it will shine up fine)

 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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