I inherited my great grandfather's retirement pocket watch. He worked for the San Francisco Municipal Railway back in the 1900 - 1910's and retired as the #2 conductor.

The watch is quite heavy and is yellow metal or gold. It is an open face "Waltham". Inside it is engraved with the following: on the case it has, "CWC Co." with a crescent moon and star and the word "trademark". then a little below that it has "Warranted Crescent 25 years". The number on the case is 2036079.

On the watch mechanism the serial number is 16196943. It has the name "J Q Hatch & Co., San Fran., Cal."

From somethings I've read JQ Hatch was a jeweler/watchmaker in SF around 1900-1910. But I just don't understand how Waltham, Crescent and Hatch all work together in this one watch. And when, where and how it was put together.

Anyone with any thoughts. I'm a new member and just thought I might get alittle help.

Sincerely,

Walter

PS: I will try and submit a photo, but my computer skills are not all that sophisticated.

Please check the serial # from movement one more time looks to be wrong.
your watch is what we call private label was made by Waltham for the SF jeweler
And Welcome to best place for watch talk on earth.

The number I am looking at is next to the largest gear of the entire watch mechanism and is along the outer edge. It is the same number as before, 16196943. The other inscribed items I forgot to include were... "17 jewels" and "adjusted".

Walter

Perhaps others will help you, from your s/n
I have no info on any data base on this Waltham

Thanks for trying.

Sorry for that last photo..... I warned that my computer skills weren't very good! Geez and it came out inverted as well. UGH!

the case is gold filled ,made by the Crescent Watch Case Co. or is the Crescent model by someone else, and "gold filled" means that it is guaranteed not to wear through to the brass base in 25 years of average use.

and TOO BAD IT WASN'T an inverted dial,that WOULD be quite unusual !!!

Walter, those J.Q. Hatch Walthams are a nice Railroad grade 16s model 1908.They are usually marked No. 1047.I've asked about these before, there is some info on here if you search this section for "J.Q. Hatch".That's a really nice watch to have!Hope this helps...Ted.

Thank you, I will.

As I am a newbie here... what do you mean by "16s"?

Here's the only clue I come up with on this serial number:Waltham Grade: Assorted Spec
Total Runs
30
Total Produced
12,190
Start Year
1907
End Year
1919

(A 16S refers to the size of the movement)
http://www.cwrnh.com/techpages...ize_conversion_c.htm

Walter, I forgot to mention, what you have is what's known as a "private label" Waltham watch.J.Q. Hatch contracted with Waltham to have these watches specially made with his name on the movement.These are either a Crescent St. or No. 645 (standard Waltham railroad watches), but with the Hatch markings.Most American,and some Swiss,watch companies did private label watches for jewelers and supply houses back in those days.The Waltham ser. number list lists those as specials, with no name or how many made,so there's no real way to know how many of those Hatch-marked watches were made.You have a real keeper,that's for sure.....Ted.

Thank you all for time and info. I now feel very special - in deed - to have my great grand father's Waltham "assorted special".