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Watchmaker
Picture of Gene Furry
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Hi all,

Anyone recognize the model of this Elgin? I just finished a complete restoration of it, but I haven't been able to identify it by model in any the publications that I have. It's a 10/0 size dated to 1927. Case is 14K solid white gold, and it's hinged.

Thanks,
Gene

 
Posts: 54 | Location: Southeastern Texas in the USA | Registered: March 18, 2008
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This is a beauty! What are the measurements? I presume this is small -- perhaps about the size of my Elgin Mermaid?

If ANYONE knows this case, I'm sure that Bryan G does. If I can find some info for you, I will let you know.

Regards,


Rick
 
Posts: 141 | Location: Michigan in the USA | Registered: October 13, 2005
Watchmaker
Picture of Gene Furry
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Hi Rick,

Thanks. This watch measures 35mm in length x 24 mm in width, exclusive of crown. It seems to resemble one picture I found of a 200-Clubman, but it has the additional engraving on top of the bezel. Other than this added engraving, it's pretty close to the Clubman, and it has the same movemment.

Yes, I agree about Bryan. However, I sent him a pic yesterday, and he hasn't been able to identify it yet.

Thanks again,
Gene
 
Posts: 54 | Location: Southeastern Texas in the USA | Registered: March 18, 2008
Hamilton WW Expert
IHC Life Member
Picture of Bryan J. Girouard
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Gene, I believe the Clubman you are thinking about has a more streamlined rounded bezel, while this one has somewhat more defined edges.

I've had one of these before, but don't know the name of it. It also came with alternating black and white enamel designs on the bezel. I have an ad that shows the enamel version, I'll check to see if it gives a name for that one.


Bryan J. Girouard
Art Deco Wristwatches
 
Posts: 169 | Location: Dallas, Texas U.S.A, | Registered: March 30, 2004
Watchmaker
Picture of Gene Furry
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Thanks Bryan. I have suspicions that this model may be one that wasn't produced in large quantities. I say that mainly because of my efforts in trying to identify a proper crystal for it which ended with no results. I have many crystal catalogs from different companies, some of which date back over 60 years, and this particular case is not in a single catalog, glass or plastic. That just potentially tells me that not enough of them were produced to cause a crystal manufacturer to list and supply it.

Gene
 
Posts: 54 | Location: Southeastern Texas in the USA | Registered: March 18, 2008
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Gene,

I presume you were able to locate someone to cut you one?


Rick
 
Posts: 141 | Location: Michigan in the USA | Registered: October 13, 2005
Watchmaker
Picture of Gene Furry
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Hey Rick,

Nope. I ground it myself. I just took one that was slightly oversize and fired up the crystal grinder. Of course you have to start out with one that has approximately the same contour, in the horizontal plane. That's provided the bezel 'has' a contour other than flat.

Gene
 
Posts: 54 | Location: Southeastern Texas in the USA | Registered: March 18, 2008
IHC Life Member
Moderator
Picture of Donald Trumble
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Very nice Gene, you do beautiful restorations!

Thanks for sharing it with us.

Don
 
Posts: 504 | Location: Pennsylvania in the USA | Registered: April 02, 2005
Watchmaker
Picture of Gene Furry
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Thanks Don. I try to make them as close to original as possible.


Gene
 
Posts: 54 | Location: Southeastern Texas in the USA | Registered: March 18, 2008
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As a matter of interest you had a Bulova watch shaped like a South American pyramid, Cor-something or other, hang on, I think I've found a picture



Your picture in fact!

Anyway, it's well gorgeous, but where did you get the metal part of the straps from? I've bought a scruffer version, but not with the beautiful strap bits
 
Posts: 106 | Location: Widnes, United Kingdom | Registered: April 02, 2008
Watchmaker
Picture of Gene Furry
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Hi Stephen,

That's a great looking watch, but I don't recall ever having one. I suspect that you are referring to Bryan who made a posting in this topic above. He certainly may have had a watch like this before.

Regards,
Gene
 
Posts: 54 | Location: Southeastern Texas in the USA | Registered: March 18, 2008
Picture of Sheila Gilbert
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What's the serial number on the watch?

Sure is nice!

Oh, and most 10/0s are Lady Elgins??? until 1927?


Very interesting! need SN


Sheila
 
Posts: 3094 | Location: La Plata, Maryland U.S.A. | Registered: May 22, 2004
Watchmaker
Picture of Gene Furry
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Hi Sheila,

Serno is 31860122, and it's not marked Lady. See this page on my website:
http://www.classicwristwatches.com/page34.html


Gene
 
Posts: 54 | Location: Southeastern Texas in the USA | Registered: March 18, 2008
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Interestingly, I own a Elgin Mermaid, seemingly a sister watch to this one, and it came with a movement marked "Lady Elgin". Since I got mine, I have seen others with movements marked both ways. I've always wondered if this was just a necessity of the Depression, of if Elgin might have marketed the Mermaid to men and women?

Regards,


Rick
 
Posts: 141 | Location: Michigan in the USA | Registered: October 13, 2005
IHC President
Life Member
Picture of Lindell V. Riddle
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I think the movement markings were the last things on their minds, after all, the buyer would never guess what was engraved on their movement. Selling watches, the pressing reality of remaining in business during the worst economic downturn in history was all that mattered.

They marketed watches, they sold them to anyone capable of buying, many women bought "mens" watches then as they do now. And part of the irony is, from the first "wristwatches" ever made they were lady's Hunter movements put in a wristwatch case.

Such is merchandising!

Wink
 
Posts: 10552 | Location: Northeastern Ohio in the USA | Registered: November 19, 2002
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