NOTE: When the Parts and Material Catalog opens, scroll down to see every page, print your own copy if you like! Thanks to Chris Schirren for scanning the 1961 Hamilton Parts Catalog
Hi everyone, glad this is well received. Took me a while until it was done in a workable file size, so not all that bad. I was happy to do it, hoping it would be a good example for others to make available what they have.
The beauty of it is we can easily place the links wherever we choose whenever we choose.
Thanks to Chris Shirren for his generosity and to Frank Kusumoto for helping make all this information freely available right here to anyone the world with an internet connection.
Posts: 10553 | Location: Northeastern Ohio in the USA | Registered: November 19, 2002
Robert, Thanks for all the great ads that you post on this site. I just recently picked up a solid example of the Van Buren with the secometer dial off of ebay for my collection.
Posts: 1953 | Location: Atlanta, Georgia in the U.S.A. | Registered: August 01, 2003
THANKS guys for the Hamilton info. I do have a question about the serial number list. Can this list also be downloaded to a disk? I had no problem with the two books but can't manage to copy the serial number listing. Thanks again Pete
Posts: 121 | Location: Jonesboro, Arkansas USA | Registered: April 23, 2003
Hi, I'm wondering what the history is of the Model #4 Stiff Bow cases that are NOT marked Hamilton, but instead marked "Fahys" and "R.R." ? Were these available to jewelers for ANY maker's movements, or were these simply earlier "factory" Hamilton cased watches, prior to the stamping of "Hamilton" inside the back covers? Thanks!
Posts: 43 | Location: St.Paul, Minnesota USA | Registered: February 18, 2007
When you first look at them, the similarity is striking.
But actually every detail of those two rigid-bow cases is different as the side-by-side comparison below will demonstrate. The Fahys Bristol has a more rounded look to the rigid-bow, whereas the Model 4 has three squared angles. Bow engraving is different, and bezel patterns are of two noticeably different designs. Even when comparing the reflecting rings, that inner area of the bezel next to the dial, the Fahys is clearly wider.
The Fahys Bristol was available to case movements at retail jewelers, the one you see on the left houses an Illinois 19-Jewel Bunn from 1926 which was not factory cased. The Model 4 was was intended to be a Hamilton factory case. Fahys made both of these and similar rigid bow Illinois Sangamo Special cases as well.
Compare Fahys on the left, Hamilton Model 4 on the right...
Posts: 10553 | Location: Northeastern Ohio in the USA | Registered: November 19, 2002
Thanks Lindell! Side by side it is much more obvious, thanks for the photo comparison. While I'm writing, I'll say "Thanks!" to all of you guys for the excellent discussion and information. I've read through a lot of the posts recently (going back several years!) and there is a wealth of information in this one site!! As I've always told folks at the office, "Model-A Ford restorers and Pocketwatch collectors are the best people you'll ever meet!" :-) Barry
Posts: 43 | Location: St.Paul, Minnesota USA | Registered: February 18, 2007
