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Pan American ends Sat morning.
Yes Dave seconds hand pinion is there
 
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Rob, I see light hairlines around the 45-minute-mark on your Pan-Am dial. The feet positions on Seth dials are at the 13 and 45-minute-marks. If there is a third dial foot it will be at the 34-minute-mark.
 
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Another one of the named grades is the Monarch Watch Co. This example is fronted by a signed Roman-numeral dial:

 
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Backing that dial is a signed Grade 189 Model 5 - a two-tone lever-set 17-jewel movement:

 
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Tucked away in a Crescent "goat" case:

 
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Just bought this on ebay:
7J Seth T. What have I got? Was it worth $35?


Dave Turner


 
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Dial Ser. No. 754201
Does this qualify as a 2 tone?


Dave Turner


 
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If it runs it's certainly worth more than what you paid for it, Dave.

You've got a nice example of a two-tone Model 8 in the "fried egg" pattern.
 
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Thanks Eric,
I don't think it runs, but it looked to be all original to me, so I thought I'd take a chance on it. I'll let you know when I get it.
Got any extra hands laying around?


Dave Turner
 
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Dave, I've only got medium spade-and-poker hands for Model 5s, which would be incorrect for this watch. You need a matching light spade hand for this Model 8. Try our own Brian Cavanaugh.
 
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Thanks for looking Eric,

I'll contact Brian.


Dave Turner
 
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One of my assumptions that Seth Thomas didn't assign a grade number to every individual pattern is because there are simply too many patterns.

Here is another pattern within the total of 80 numbers blocked for the two-tone 24-jewel variant of the Maiden Lane:

 
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Fronting is the red and black 24-hour Arabic radial dial with matching spade-and-poker hands:

 
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All wrapped up in a handsome Philadelphia case with a blank cartouche:

 
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Oh my God! I think I just blew out an optic nerve!

William
 
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Thanks, William. Smile

The Edgemere is one of the lesser named grades, but unlike the Century line can be found in both nickel and two-tone, and in jewel counts from 7 to 17. This fully-jewelled Model 8 was top shelf for the Edgemere:

 
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Fronting that movement is a marked red-and-black Roman dial with matching light spade hands:

 
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The Model 4 key-wind parts list:

 
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The Model 4 was the Seth Thomas company's primary keywind movement. Though the Model 2 hunter could occasionally be found with a keyed barrel, the Model 4 was produced in 20 separate runs with a total production of around 12,400 watches.

A very exciting example - a Model 4 from the very first run, and with a gold-plated upper plate. All the serial numbers match on this 7-jewel veteran from the year 1887. Simplicity itself - a barrel, a train, and a balance. No setting gears, no yoke, no lever, and no stem arbor:

 
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Fronted by a cursive signature with matching hands:

 
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Wrapped up in a hulking triple-hinged Keystone case:

 
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