September 20, 2012, 22:14
Robert V. JonesIn Search Of Seth Thomas
Pan American ends Sat morning.
Yes Dave seconds hand pinion is there
September 21, 2012, 09:30
Eric UnseltRob, I see light hairlines around the 45-minute-mark on your Pan-Am dial. The feet positions on Seth dials are at the 13 and 45-minute-marks. If there is a third dial foot it will be at the 34-minute-mark.
October 18, 2012, 21:24
Eric UnseltAnother one of the named grades is the Monarch Watch Co. This example is fronted by a signed Roman-numeral dial:
October 18, 2012, 21:27
Eric UnseltBacking that dial is a signed Grade 189 Model 5 - a two-tone lever-set 17-jewel movement:
October 22, 2012, 21:31
Eric UnseltTucked away in a Crescent "goat" case:
October 22, 2012, 22:04
Dave TurnerJust bought this on ebay:
7J Seth T. What have I got? Was it worth $35?
October 22, 2012, 22:06
Dave TurnerDial Ser. No. 754201
Does this qualify as a 2 tone?
October 23, 2012, 07:10
Eric UnseltIf it runs it's certainly worth more than what you paid for it, Dave.
You've got a nice example of a two-tone Model 8 in the "fried egg" pattern.
October 23, 2012, 08:31
Dave TurnerThanks Eric,
I don't think it runs, but it looked to be all original to me, so I thought I'd take a chance on it. I'll let you know when I get it.
Got any extra hands laying around?
October 23, 2012, 17:31
Eric UnseltDave, I've only got medium spade-and-poker hands for Model 5s, which would be incorrect for this watch. You need a matching light spade hand for this Model 8. Try our own Brian Cavanaugh.
November 08, 2012, 19:16
Eric UnseltOne of my assumptions that Seth Thomas didn't assign a grade number to every individual pattern is because there are simply too many patterns.
Here is another pattern within the total of 80 numbers blocked for the two-tone 24-jewel variant of the Maiden Lane:
November 08, 2012, 19:18
Eric UnseltFronting is the red and black 24-hour Arabic radial dial with matching spade-and-poker hands:
November 08, 2012, 19:19
Eric UnseltAll wrapped up in a handsome Philadelphia case with a blank cartouche:
November 09, 2012, 03:14
William D. WhiteOh my God! I think I just blew out an optic nerve!
William
November 17, 2012, 18:42
Eric UnseltThanks, William.

The Edgemere is one of the lesser named grades, but unlike the Century line can be found in both nickel and two-tone, and in jewel counts from 7 to 17. This fully-jewelled Model 8 was top shelf for the Edgemere:
November 17, 2012, 18:43
Eric UnseltFronting that movement is a marked red-and-black Roman dial with matching light spade hands:
January 12, 2013, 19:00
Eric UnseltThe Model 4 key-wind parts list:
January 12, 2013, 19:04
Eric UnseltThe Model 4 was the Seth Thomas company's primary keywind movement. Though the Model 2 hunter could occasionally be found with a keyed barrel, the Model 4 was produced in 20 separate runs with a total production of around 12,400 watches.
A very exciting example - a Model 4 from
the very first run, and with a gold-plated upper plate. All the serial numbers match on this 7-jewel veteran from the year 1887. Simplicity itself - a barrel, a train, and a balance. No setting gears, no yoke, no lever, and no stem arbor:
January 12, 2013, 19:08
Eric UnseltFronted by a cursive signature with matching hands:
January 12, 2013, 20:25
Eric UnseltWrapped up in a hulking triple-hinged Keystone case: