Internet Horology Club 185
In Search Of Seth Thomas

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September 20, 2012, 22:14
Robert V. Jones
In Search Of Seth Thomas
Pan American ends Sat morning.
Yes Dave seconds hand pinion is there


tymekeeper005
September 21, 2012, 09:30
Eric Unselt
Rob, I see light hairlines around the 45-minute-mark on your Pan-Am dial. The feet positions on Seth dials are at the 13 and 45-minute-marks. If there is a third dial foot it will be at the 34-minute-mark.
October 18, 2012, 21:24
Eric Unselt
Another one of the named grades is the Monarch Watch Co. This example is fronted by a signed Roman-numeral dial:


October 18, 2012, 21:27
Eric Unselt
Backing that dial is a signed Grade 189 Model 5 - a two-tone lever-set 17-jewel movement:


October 22, 2012, 21:31
Eric Unselt
Tucked away in a Crescent "goat" case:


October 22, 2012, 22:04
Dave Turner
Just bought this on ebay:
7J Seth T. What have I got? Was it worth $35?




Dave Turner
October 22, 2012, 22:06
Dave Turner
Dial Ser. No. 754201
Does this qualify as a 2 tone?




Dave Turner
October 23, 2012, 07:10
Eric Unselt
If it runs it's certainly worth more than what you paid for it, Dave.

You've got a nice example of a two-tone Model 8 in the "fried egg" pattern.
October 23, 2012, 08:31
Dave Turner
Thanks Eric,
I don't think it runs, but it looked to be all original to me, so I thought I'd take a chance on it. I'll let you know when I get it.
Got any extra hands laying around?


Dave Turner
October 23, 2012, 17:31
Eric Unselt
Dave, I've only got medium spade-and-poker hands for Model 5s, which would be incorrect for this watch. You need a matching light spade hand for this Model 8. Try our own Brian Cavanaugh.
October 23, 2012, 18:09
Dave Turner
Thanks for looking Eric,

I'll contact Brian.


Dave Turner
November 08, 2012, 19:16
Eric Unselt
One of my assumptions that Seth Thomas didn't assign a grade number to every individual pattern is because there are simply too many patterns.

Here is another pattern within the total of 80 numbers blocked for the two-tone 24-jewel variant of the Maiden Lane:


November 08, 2012, 19:18
Eric Unselt
Fronting is the red and black 24-hour Arabic radial dial with matching spade-and-poker hands:


November 08, 2012, 19:19
Eric Unselt
All wrapped up in a handsome Philadelphia case with a blank cartouche:


November 09, 2012, 03:14
William D. White
Oh my God! I think I just blew out an optic nerve!

William
November 17, 2012, 18:42
Eric Unselt
Thanks, William. Smile

The Edgemere is one of the lesser named grades, but unlike the Century line can be found in both nickel and two-tone, and in jewel counts from 7 to 17. This fully-jewelled Model 8 was top shelf for the Edgemere:


November 17, 2012, 18:43
Eric Unselt
Fronting that movement is a marked red-and-black Roman dial with matching light spade hands:


January 12, 2013, 19:00
Eric Unselt
The Model 4 key-wind parts list:


January 12, 2013, 19:04
Eric Unselt
The Model 4 was the Seth Thomas company's primary keywind movement. Though the Model 2 hunter could occasionally be found with a keyed barrel, the Model 4 was produced in 20 separate runs with a total production of around 12,400 watches.

A very exciting example - a Model 4 from the very first run, and with a gold-plated upper plate. All the serial numbers match on this 7-jewel veteran from the year 1887. Simplicity itself - a barrel, a train, and a balance. No setting gears, no yoke, no lever, and no stem arbor:


January 12, 2013, 19:08
Eric Unselt
Fronted by a cursive signature with matching hands:


January 12, 2013, 20:25
Eric Unselt
Wrapped up in a hulking triple-hinged Keystone case:


February 14, 2013, 19:33
Eric Unselt
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