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posted October 15, 2004 21:00
I have a Dueber 18s pocket watch I just got on ebay. The serial number on the movement is 732207. Could someone give me a little information about this watch? Just the year of production would be great.
 
Posts: 225 | Location: Belmont, Wisconsin USA | Registered: April 09, 2004
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posted October 16, 2004 01:40
Larry,
It is likely a 15j, model 2, gilt, lever set, unadjusted, hunting movement but without a pic I am not absolutely certain. Production date should be around 1891.

Smile


Kenny
 
Posts: 359 | Location: Lexington, South Carolina USA | Registered: July 28, 2003
posted October 16, 2004 08:15
Kenny,
Thanks for the reply.Here's a scan of the movement. Unless there are missing jewels on the pillar plate side my guess would be that this could be a 17 jewel. I'll know more after I clean it.
  


Larry


Dueber
 
Posts: 225 | Location: Belmont, Wisconsin USA | Registered: April 09, 2004
posted October 16, 2004 08:16
Dial Side.
  


Larry


Dueber
 
Posts: 225 | Location: Belmont, Wisconsin USA | Registered: April 09, 2004
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posted October 16, 2004 09:17
With no jewel in the center it is unlikely to be 17J. If the pillar plate is not jeweled, it is 11J. If the pillar plate is jeweled, it is 15J.
 
Posts: 633 | Location: Boston, Massachusetts USA | Registered: November 25, 2002
posted October 16, 2004 11:23
Tom,
I have it apart now and the jewel count is 16. The center wheel is jeweled in the top plate but not in the pillar plate. It also has a hairspring stud like a Hamilton. Did Hamilton make watches for Dueber at first?


Larry
 
Posts: 225 | Location: Belmont, Wisconsin USA | Registered: April 09, 2004
Picture of Kenny Drafts
posted October 16, 2004 11:25
Larry,
I`ll stick with my first post except for the gilt movement. The dial looks correct for the movement also.

Smile


Kenny
 
Posts: 359 | Location: Lexington, South Carolina USA | Registered: July 28, 2003
posted October 16, 2004 13:29
Kenny,
What about the jewel count?


Larry
 
Posts: 225 | Location: Belmont, Wisconsin USA | Registered: April 09, 2004
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posted October 16, 2004 16:10
Larry, Your Hampden has one of those "Teske Regulators on it."
 
Posts: 1033 | Location: Northeast Pennsylvania in the USA | Registered: June 02, 2003
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posted October 16, 2004 18:42
Larry,
Hampden did make a Dueber grade, 18s, 16 jewels, h/c, model 2, lever set. Yours did not list as such in the Hampden Watch Co. serial number book. Where you have the watch in hand, I'd say the book is wrong.
Brian C.
 
Posts: 1857 | Location: Epsom, New Hampshire USA | Registered: December 14, 2002
Picture of Kenny Drafts
posted October 16, 2004 19:18
Larry,
I had typed a reply earlier today but when I clicked to post it the site was down. I posted my second reply without seeing yours about it being 16j.
Brian is correct, there is a 16j listed for this model. The center hole didn`t appear to be jeweled (bad eyes, dark monitor). Shows how wrong one can be without an in-hand inspection,
Never heard of Hamilton making movements or parts for Hampden so would think not.

Red Face Smile


Kenny
 
Posts: 359 | Location: Lexington, South Carolina USA | Registered: July 28, 2003
posted October 16, 2004 22:28
I guess the hairspring stud had me wondering.Thanks for all the information.


Larry
 
Posts: 225 | Location: Belmont, Wisconsin USA | Registered: April 09, 2004
posted October 19, 2004 05:38
As far as Hamilton goes, one of Hampden watch designers went on to a long career with Hamilton after he left Hampden. Ed Thouvenin is writing an article on this very fellow and the similarites between the balance cock on both (I forgot the fellow name- I will get it tomorrow). Mike
 
Posts: 87 | Location: Home of Hampden Watches, Canton Ohio USA | Registered: January 18, 2004
posted October 19, 2004 12:05
Thanks Mike,
I was wondering if there might be some conection.


Larry
 
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