I have a question for the Elgin experts:

I have a 571, movement serial number P799858 (ca. 1952-53), that has what appears to be an enamel BW Raymond "dp" dial. Pictures of front and back are shown below.

Then, I have a very late 571, movement serial number I385326 (ca. 1955), that has a similar-looking dial but it appears to be metal, not enamel. It is marked "Swiss" on the back. Pics below.

Query: Is the dial on the second watch original, or is it a later replacement dial?

P799858 dial front:

P799858 dial back:

I385326 dial front:

I385326 dial back:

Mike, the second metal dial appears to be a reproduction, possibly from S. LaRose when they were in business.It looks a good quality repro.

Thanks Theodore. I understood from an earlier post by Lindell that the later Raymond dials used a "melamine-like" substance. If those later dials lasted about as well as regular melamine dials, then I guess it would make sense that this one would have needed replaced at some point.

Appreciate your interest in my post, Theodore.

Mike

I was trying to remember if S.LaRose handled the BWR dials with the "D/P" symbol, and I believe they did. Seems like they were $40 back in the day.

It looks good to me and I would put it back together and be perfectly content with it

regards,
bb

I'll do just that, Buster. Unfortunately, I still need a case for it, because its original Star 3058 case has an incorrect and mangled bow, and over several months I've been unable to find a replacement bow.

Based on the late movement serial #I385326, I understand that a Keystone J. Boss 3055, or a Star 10K YGF 3058, 3059 or 3156 case would be appropriate. If anyone has a decent one of these they'd like to part with via sale, I'd be eternally grateful . . .

I have an old La Rose newsprint "flyer" - they used to send them out monthly - this particular one is for October, 1987 - and yes, they did carry a repro BWR dial. Buster's memory is pretty good. Flyer says "Special this month only $25.00. Reg. $40.00"

That would be terrific. Thanks David and Lindell! And thanks for your input too, Ted!