Was there any Ball watches made with the lever set at the 11 [at 56 minutes] position like later walthams have. I know waltham made some later movements with lever set at 11 but all ball walthams I ever seen have lever same as hamilton at 6 [minutes] position.

Ok thanks are they a standard 16s movement then. I sent a friend one of my nice ball cases I had put away and he just called me and said the lever was at 11 and I just found it hard to believe. I remember checking to make sure all my cases were not the restrikes but never remember checking the lever slot. Funny how I happened to pick out the one and only one I had that had lever at 11. I actually asked him what he was smoking. LOL Now I will have to tell him what I found. I dont have any ball record watches in my collection and didnt even think of that. Thanks a million for the info.

Robert I do not think your Ball Swiss case works on American made Ball movements. Perhaps another member knows for sure?

Here are some photos of a Ball Record 435C with the lever at 11 o'clock

I purchased this watch in 2009. you can see the characteristic No.4 that the Swiss used for their dials.

The movement is housed without modification in a American Keystone J Boss yellow gold filled Ball Official RR Standard case. So American movements should fit in it quite easily.

Larry

I am going to exchange it for one of my other cases and keep it in case I run into a swiss ball needing a case.

Reason why I asked if it was standard 16s is I thought I remember having a swiss ball at one time that I ended up selling but thought the movement was smaller but it may have been a different creature than the one Larry posted or maybe my memory isnt as good as I thought.