Since I picked up the hunter case Elgin key wind I decided to pick up a RR grade version of an Elgin keywind. This one is an Elgin BW Raymond grade 70 18s 15j made in 1874 and appears to be a transitional movement (I think that is what they are called). There were a boatload of these made ~75K, it is adjusted and would have been RR approved. It has a key wind for the mainspring but the hands appear to set via the crown since it has a female square insert that later style movements have located at the 3 postion. It has a lever of some sort located at the 26-27 min position.

The lever does not operate like most lever sets, it appears you move it toward the winding stem as you set the hands and then release it when you have the hands set properly, is this a correct assumption. It also looks like some "Bozo the Clown" cut off the locator peg since it only has one hold down screw and I can see what looks to be the place where the peg was. I will post some pictures later but I thought I would ask a few questions since when it comes to keywinds I don't know a lot about them.

Like I said, once the KW bug bites, you have to own more than one.

Regard! Mark

Mark it is a clean movement, don't have a lot into it and the DS dial looks good but needs cleaning. It needs a staff so I need to find out what staff these took since I will need at least one staff.

If the lever slides sideways rather than pulling out, it may be an Abbot conversion which should be considered in the valuation. To find out requires lifting the dial which may be held on with pins.

Discussion of an Abbot Conversion Elgin is at;
https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/f...=640109113#640109113

Looks like this movement is a later Elgin conversion. The setting lever is at the more typical position of about 25-27 minute postion.

Here is the dial

Here is the back of the movement, in this view the movement looks fairly clean but the view with the dial off shows that it needs a serious bath. The balance staff is broken so if it needs any help besides that I don't know. The dial is in pretty good condition, a hairline around the 27 mark and a slight line near the 11 sec on the second sunk.