1927, 17J, 14k White GF, 12s with 14s dial (I think)(dial should be a Masonic?)
Check out the hands and bow on this one.
Especially the Bow.
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This is a really NEAT model that can also stand on a desk or nightstand. They turn up a few times a year. Sheila, did you get this one?

Jerry,
YEP! I got it at the last minute, and on opening bid. Too high, but I decided, since this was my last watch for a while, that I would get it.
Had to wait 10 days for this one to end too.

Gotta think of Christmas now, so all bids are off till Christmas is over.

This one is White Gold so I had a hard time turning it down. I also wanted to have it for my nightstand or desk just like you mentioned. I actually could use one. Perfect size.

Funny, I have never gotten a vintage Pocket Watch that I really wanted to USE in a practical way!

I love the hands, and the way it sits up, isn't it neat? Not rare, not even that unusual, but it's so nice to have one that I feel great about. Some of em just "Click" ya know?

Not my usual style either!
Tell me what you know about them, and if you have some tidbits for me to chew on about these, pass em on please.
Last, what do you know about Grade 479 and model 10? that's what this is. SN 31126843
1000 1927, grade 479, 12s, class?, Open Face, 3/4 plate, nickel Damaskeening,model 10, Pendant Set. Wayne's site says: notes on grade 479 - 14s dial.

Made between 1923 and 1932.

Nice Sheila, i have not seen these before.I like those Elgin 12 sz movements, a little harder to work on but nice to look at, i have a GM Wheeler 12 sz and it is cute too.
Do you also like the 8 day desk clocks too Sheila?

Kevin,
Since I really only know Wrist and Pocket watches, I don't even know 8 day desk clocks.
I have been purchasing some different types of inexpensive alarm clocks lately. I just got a 1950's? Elgin alarm clock, that looks like a pocket watch, and 3 1950's? Lux alarm clocks. I got them for use though. They are nice and loud, and I need LOUD alarm clocks.
If you have an example of an 8 day, how about posting it for me?

Hi Sheila, Very nice watch and a unique case. What you have is a 12S model 4. this was the last 12S design made by elgin. These have a detent stem (note the small release screw just below the pendant). These are also a unique size and do not fit a regular 12S case.

This looks to be a presentation watch that was given for service rendered. It wouldn't necessarily have a Masonic dial on it.

Again--great watch.

Tom

I really like your watch, so unique! Everything about it is so different, from the numbers to the bow,to the etching and pull out stand etc. etc. Wondering if radium hands? My guess would be yes as one would be able to tell time in the dark.

Hi Tom,
Thank you. One question. Are you talking about the small "Bar" type object? when you say screw?Wayne's site says it's a model 10?? yet it looks like the model 4 you mentioned. (from the book too)
and it's not listed in Shugarts 2004 guide as a model 10 either, it also stops at grade 417 and this is a grade 479?? Is grade 479 right? I noticed that the site refers to grade 392 when you do the ebay search, (model 4) and also mentions this watch with the bow top flip down.
Lots of questions, I know, but I sure would like to know all this. Thank you for the Great information.

Hi Stephanie, I wondered about the hands too.
I don't think they are, or at least they don't glow yet, but they have been packed up for a long time. Maybe they will after sitting in the light a while??? I'll let you know.
I like it too, thought it was unusual.

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Face is not real nice

Lindell,
Thank you! I had no idea about the screew.
Although the case and movement are like new, the dial is not real good, but much better than the picture below for sure.

The Serial Number is 31126843, 17J, and is marked Adjusted, but does not indicate any positions.

I did notice, in Wayne's site that the 479's were marked streamline in the ebay look up too.

It's definatly a Presentation Watch, and has Delta Lodge 128 on it. If it's the same one today it's in Colorado.

Thank you again for the information.

Congrats on the find Sheila!

True the dial isn't perfect, but I don't think it is that bad or out of character with the rest of the watch so I would encourage you to leave it just as it is.

Fred

that is a neat case....... !!

Hi Sheila, I agree with Fred to leave the dial alone. It does not look bad. I look at small marks as giving the watch some character. It shows that it was carried and used. It was someone's personal sidekick.

Also, just a small dab of Happich Simichrome polish will give the case a nice luster.

Tom

Fred, Terry, Tom,
Thank you! I'm real pleased with it too!

Your so right, I won't touch the dial. I would never touch a dial anyway, unless I absolutly had to, I like all original.
I would replace if I had to, but only if all was lost on trying to fix it. This one isn't near bad enough for me to touch.

Tom, Thank you for the cleaning information, I'll try it.

Thanks all!

Sheila,

Well, here is my watch. The case # is 7981611 and movement S/N 30,367,447.

Here is the movement. It runs good but probably hasn't been serviced in decades.

Here is the inscription. Could someone please help me interpret the name? I like to look in the Social Security death records when I have a complete name and approximate age and find the original owner's info.

I think the name is "Chas (Charles) R. Mulcahy Jr."

Thanks to everyone in advance for your help!

I did some research following the above post and found the following: CHARLES R MULCAHY, born 30 Jan 1916, died 09 Jul 2002 in Bristol, MA. SSN 026-03-0515.

Could this have been a special gift to a 13 year old boy? I purchased this watch on eBay ca 2004.

John,
Nice watch! I think you got the name right; it makes the watch "come to life" a bit when I know that Charles' parents gave this nice gift to him at the age of 13. He took care of it, too. It must have meant quite a bit to him. Of course, that's somewhat speculative, but I like your idea of finding info on original owners.
Pete
Happy New Year!

John,
Love those P/Ws. Yours looks to be in nice condition. Interesting history too. Thanks for sharing!