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I need suggestions on what happened to this case. At some point the case was dented and I believe someone attempted a fix. My problem is that the gold has worn off to reveal what appears to be white gold underneath....not brass as I would have expected. Then, what do I do with this case? Replate? Live with it? I'm by no means an expert in anything watches, so all opinions are welcomed. | |||
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IHC Member 1291 |
It is very hard to tell from the pictures... The first one looks almost like a film or haze, and the last one looks like someone may have taken the gold layer down to brass, feathered the edges and perhaps nickel electro plated over the area I think i would run down to the grocery and pick up somes Wrights Copper Cream 8oz. I would put a drop on my finger and massage it over the area. Then wipe off with a kleenez till the residue was gone and see what I had. That would be my try at figuring out whether it was a residue type film or a nickle plated area. Either way it should either dasappear or expose the brass. Hope that helps regards, bb | |||
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Greg, What does the case look like on the inside? Is it still somewhat dented? If so it could be someone filled the dent in with solder and polished it. I have a case where the dent was filled in with silver solder on a yellow gold filled case and it looks just like your case. .....Keith | ||||
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Keith it is somewhat still dented. I will try to take pictures of it tomorrow. What would be my remedy for this to make it "right"? This is an unmarked 60 hour and otherwise a very nice watch. | ||||
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IHC President Life Member |
Greg, Keith has hit the nail on the head. Looks to me like it was filled-in with ordinary lead solder rather than gold solder. Then it was probably plated by use of an electroplating dipping process that would cover the repair with a thin coating of gold which unfortunately rubs off all too easily. What they did was a cheap, do-it-yourself repair done to mask the problem for a quick sale, but as you see someone actually did more harm than good. Now, it is still possible to do a proper repair which would involve removing the lid, smoothing out the underside, remove the mess, fill it and then correctly plate the lid using a commercial plating process. Proper repairs are complicated and expensive but well well worth doing. I have a man locally who could do this work. Lindell | |||
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IHC President Life Member |
Our worst suspicions turned out to be factual. The case was a mess but it is now professionally repaired and re-plated. Unlike before, all three hinges are now firm and the covers close securely. I found it exceedingly difficult to photograph as the case has such a brilliant, smooth and shiny gold finish. As I stated in an eMail to Greg Campbell, it satisfied even me! Quite a big difference and it is obvious immediately... | |||
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IHC President Life Member |
Greg is looking forward to and has been patiently waiting for these images, I hope he likes what he sees. These BEFORE and AFTER images really tell the story... | |||
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IHC President Life Member |
Up front, we again see the excellent workmanship IHC Member Don Mathis, this entire case has been professionally re-plated for an overall look of originality. A beveled crystal from William White completes the job, this will ship to Greg tomorrow. From every angle this case has a look we can admire... | |||
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Thoroughly impressive work - looks like an NOS case. | ||||
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Oh my! Ohhh Myy! That is a beautiful refinishing job! Thank you for the before and after pictures, Lindell. Such a beautiful watch case!! | ||||
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That's beautiful! I didn't know a case could be redone to look so good. | ||||
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IHC Member 1291 |
This is a very nice end result indeedy On a scale of 1-10 I would rate it at an honest 9+ Also, the rarity/scarcity of the Sangamo Special 17sz cases made this a candidate for total restoration as shown Now it does boil down to the next question What did this quality restoration cost Since we are talking about a nice collectable piece and I am guessing not a family heirloom [ where price would not be factored ], I do believe I personally would be satisfied with spending wholesale up to say $200 for this job. That figure would be a "break-even" amount to be considered in the overall effect on the unmarked 60 hr. completed watch. Not knowing the costs, I am out on a limb here BUT facts,reality, & actuality have to be considered since we do now have a case thats not what the purist call "original". On this particular case restoration & originality could not be accomplished. Complicated isn't it Finally, as a case only the BEFORE product was a $200 item. Now as a case only the AFTER product WITH No Wool Pulled Over The Prospective Buyers Eyes, should be a $400 item. These figures are mine and come from a 25 year perspective of buying/selling RR pocket watches. I do hope no toes have been stepped on in my comments. Just honesty and naturally IMHO and as referenced, that and a $1 will get you a Coca~Cola regards, bb | |||
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Great save! It looks spectacular. | ||||
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Everyone, Here is this watch completed and listed in the IHC185 Items For Sale listings... CLICK FOR: • 23-JEWEL SANGAMO SPECIAL 60 HOUR IN THE "RIGID-BOW" CASE • Post your thoughts, questions and comments! Greg | ||||
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IHC Life Member |
Oy, that's nice! | |||
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