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Samuel posting under Johns name.....(gotta remember my own password soon)

OK is this a defective case or was there a special movement made by Waltham that needed this? The bezel and "hinged" back are on the wrong sides!!!!

Normally when you put the movement in the bottom or movement side is smaller than the top or dial side and has a lip to tighten the screws onto. This case is reversed. So the lip to tighten the movement "Case" screws onto is on the front bezel side?!?
Any one here got any ideas?

 
Posts: 349 | Location: Western New York in the U.S.A. | Registered: December 22, 2002
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Hi Sam,

We re-sent your registration details. Smile Now to the case...

My first impression is someone may have improperly modified this case in a lathe, unlikely but that could help explain the odd appearance. Anyhow, somehow the case at one time functioned because there is wear on it!

Could it have actually been designed to "show-off" the movement and the user rarely checked the time?

Perhaps putting movement in the case Confused might help clear up the mystery.

Lindell

Wink
 
Posts: 10553 | Location: Northeastern Ohio in the USA | Registered: November 19, 2002
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(Sam again) I'll check for the account info later tonight.

I have a 12 size movement I just put on ebay I'll put into it and see how it looks. I'll post pictures in a few minutes.

Samuel
 
Posts: 349 | Location: Western New York in the U.S.A. | Registered: December 22, 2002
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well a 12 size movement doesn't quite fit....maybe a 14 size?

 
Posts: 349 | Location: Western New York in the U.S.A. | Registered: December 22, 2002
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The only thing I can think of is the Waltham "Opera" watch which has a 1.505" diameter body while BOTH the dial and the back trim ring are 1.520 O.D. So the watch is held central in the case from both sides when the smaller movement with dial assembled is inserted into the case and then the back ornate trim ring is screwed into place by attachment of the 3 ring mounting screws just outside of the small movement.

Check the I.D. of the case and see if it is 1.505"

 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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David I don't have a micrometer nearby with inches on it so I have to use millimeters and convert.
The inside diameter is 39mm and using online conversion tools 39 millimeter = 1.535 433 070 9 inch [international, U.S.].
 
Posts: 115 | Location: Jamestown, New York in the USA | Registered: August 12, 2008
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Looks like David may have figured it out!

With all the gold cases being lost to scrapping these days, despite some obvious wear this otherwise ordinary looking gold-filled case should be identified and therefore saved. If this one is indeed what David suspects a worthwhile Waltham Opera Watch could once again be complete.

Wink
 
Posts: 10553 | Location: Northeastern Ohio in the USA | Registered: November 19, 2002
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Sam, I would like to try it on for size. E-mail e at david@glopar.com if you think we cna set something up.
 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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I believe this case is for a Marsh's patent. I'll see if I can post some scans of mine. It's a 25 year Wadsworth case.

 
Posts: 1857 | Location: Epsom, New Hampshire USA | Registered: December 14, 2002
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Number 2

 
Posts: 1857 | Location: Epsom, New Hampshire USA | Registered: December 14, 2002
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Note in picture 2, the watch isn't even signed.
#3

 
Posts: 1857 | Location: Epsom, New Hampshire USA | Registered: December 14, 2002
Picture of Brian C.
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My watch measures a 10s. Note the ring it has.

 
Posts: 1857 | Location: Epsom, New Hampshire USA | Registered: December 14, 2002
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Say, this is really getting interesting!

Wink
 
Posts: 10553 | Location: Northeastern Ohio in the USA | Registered: November 19, 2002
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Very interesting! David we can set up something soon. Brian can you show some pictures of your case without the movement in it?

Samuel
 
Posts: 115 | Location: Jamestown, New York in the USA | Registered: August 12, 2008
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Samual,
Sorry I can't do that. The watch is in the bank.
Brian C.
 
Posts: 1857 | Location: Epsom, New Hampshire USA | Registered: December 14, 2002
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