For Howard specialists -- Are the hands on this Series 1 Keystone Howard particular to the Monty dial or of later vintage for this model or just flat wrong? Perhaps they are particular to RR grade??
I'm having trouble believing that hands this beefy could be put on a watch made earlier than 1910, but I've seen fewer than 50 Keystone-Howards at this point, so I'm asking those who would know.
One other question: I see a fairly high value in Shugart's for the Howard series 3 w/gold-filled case, and this surprises me given the apparent quantity of them extant. Any thoughts on that?

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Dear longtime Howards enthusiasts (I don't mean you old guard pre-1904 gents - you boys can retreat back to the den with the cigar and the aloof countenance); I'm talking to the nouveau guard, post-1904 crowd that doesn't scoff at the "inferior" quality of Keystone Howards...you were the first to wear straw hats, and then you purchased a smaller, less precious pocket watch. But you're still **** proud of it!
Can you help me - and other members - with the identification questions above? Any other information shed would be appreciated.

Doubt I can be of much help here but here goes:looking at the "Fat Book" there are only 5 dials and hand sets shown and they all appear to be on the thin side.I have only one Howard a Series 11 and it has thin hands as depicted in the book.Wish I could be of more Help.
Regards
Roger
My watch is 1913-1914 era

Thx Roger, it does look fishy, but I've now seen two Monty dials and one marginal-minute hand dial that have such hands, so the plot thickens.

Ken, I believe those hands are replacements and probably from 1940 on.

I agree, Deacon. Look at this example for a subtle difference from above. Do you believe this set?

My far from original circa 1911 model 1907... it is frustrating that the book lists a 23J jeweled motor barrel, but does not list a 19J jeweled motor barrel.

I picked up a very nice Keystone Hunter Case to swap this in to, have acquired three different sets of hands, umbrella, open diamond and thin spade, but have not decided which ones to put on when I do the COA.

I have yet to see a Keystone Howard Hunter case come available.

And the movement...

Ken,

Don't use my watch as an example for validation. When I bought the watch, I was all about the jeweled barrel and negotiating my price for the movement.

It wasn't until I got home that I began to question the hands and not until I did some photos and saw the watch larger than life that I noticed the dial has been apart and soldered back together out of alignment.