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posted November 22, 2012 15:22
By the pictures you will say this is a 18s Waltham Keywind and if you look up the serial number it will say it is an 18s. Well in hand it looks much smaller and it only measures 42mm about 14s across the dial when other 18s movements measure 45.5mm.

 
Posts: 3468 | Location: Cleveland, Georgia in the U.S.A. | Registered: February 03, 2006
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posted November 22, 2012 15:27
Robert,
According to my lookup this is a 14s.
Start: 7/1/1887 End: 10/31/1887
First: 3292801 Last: 3293000
Model: 1884 Name: Riverside
Material: A Grade: Riverside, NL
Size: 14 Size: 14
Plate: 3/4 Plate: 3/4
Jewelling: 3 Pairs Jewels: 13
Balance: Exp. Bal: Pat. Reg. - Breg. HS
Style: HC
Style:

Htg

Comment: SW Htg. Foggs Pat. Reg. BH Adj.
Source: AD
Date:

1/3/2003


Dave Turner
 
Posts: 1979 | Location: Wilson, North Carolina in the USA | Registered: November 15, 2011
posted November 22, 2012 15:44
Rob,
If the ser# is 5292963, what you say is what the lookup states, but the number is not really clear.
Bill
 
Posts: 1278 | Location: British Columbia in Canada | Registered: May 19, 2008
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posted November 22, 2012 15:46
Thanks Dave I guess the ***** site is wrong this is what I copied from it. Where do you look up Waltham serial numbers

Start: 3/1/1892 End: 2/28/1893
First: 5285001 Last: 5298000
Model: 1883 Name: Home
Material: U Grade: Home, NL
Size: 18 Size: 18
Plate: FP Plate: KW
Jewelling: 7 Jewels: 7
Balance: Ex Bal: 0
Style: KW Style:
NL

Comment: Eng Unadj KW
Source: DH Date:
12/4/2002
 
Posts: 3468 | Location: Cleveland, Georgia in the U.S.A. | Registered: February 03, 2006
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posted November 22, 2012 15:47
Serial #5292963
 
Posts: 3468 | Location: Cleveland, Georgia in the U.S.A. | Registered: February 03, 2006
Picture of Dave Turner
posted November 22, 2012 16:02
Robert,
Thought sure I had the number right, but I didn't. get 1883 model 18s same as you.??

Start: 3/1/1892 End: 2/28/1893
First: 5285001 Last: 5298000
Model: 1883 Name: Home
Material: U Grade: Home, NL
Size: 18 Size: 18
Plate: FP Plate: KW
Jewelling: 7 Jewels: 7
Balance: Ex Bal: 0
Style: KW
Style:

NL

Comment: Eng Unadj KW
Source: DH
Date:

12/4/2002


Dave Turner
 
Posts: 1979 | Location: Wilson, North Carolina in the USA | Registered: November 15, 2011
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posted November 22, 2012 18:30
I think I've found the answer.
According to Waltham Pocket Watch and Identification Guide the ser. no. range from 5289001 - 98000 is size 14 - Model F.P. - Grade Home - KW - 7J - Grade of Material U


Dave Turner
 
Posts: 1979 | Location: Wilson, North Carolina in the USA | Registered: November 15, 2011
posted November 22, 2012 18:49
Robert, The serial number list in Roy Ehrhardt's 1976 ed. of the "Waltham Pocket Watch Identification and Price Guide" lists this watch as 14 size F.P. Home grade KW 7 Jewel Unadjusted. The serial number list in this book is a copy of the list in the Waltham printed serial number book which was used to create the on-line database. Since all the information you listed from the look up appears to be correct except for the model and size, it appears that the 1883 and 18 size are errors that occurred in creating the on-line version from the printed list.

Bob
 
Posts: 346 | Location: Woodland Hills, California in the USA | Registered: January 07, 2011
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posted November 22, 2012 20:26
Ok thanks everyone for the help I was starting to wonder if I had something special LOL especially since I never seen this type layout in anything but a 18s.
 
Posts: 3468 | Location: Cleveland, Georgia in the U.S.A. | Registered: February 03, 2006
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posted November 22, 2012 22:44
On page 141 of the 2012 edition of the Price Guide there is a drawing of this movement. Size 14.
 
Posts: 3858 | Location: Georgia in the USA | Registered: September 22, 2011
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posted November 23, 2012 15:40
You should use a back scratcher or your fingers to scratch your head, NOT a Waltham.
 
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