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A Peerless Watch of my Great Grandfather "Click" to Login or Register 
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Hello!

I have a railroad watch that belonged to my great grandfather (from Pennsylvania) and I am interested in getting it repaired and finding out more information about it and its history. I can post a few more photos if need be.

There are 2 numbers inscribed on the watch:

On the inside cover/case of the back part of the watch the number reads: 920988

Another number is on the inside of the watch itself that reads: 958846

I would sincerely any input about where I could get this watch repaired/restored, if possible.

Thank you very much for your time.

Joseph Natale
Manchester, Connecticut 06040

Watch face
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Manchester, Connecticut in the USA | Registered: January 26, 2015
Picture of Dave Turner
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Very interesting watch Joe. Show us the movement!
And take a look at this Thread:

Peerless Watch Co

Looks like it might be made by Trenton.


Dave Turner
 
Posts: 1979 | Location: Wilson, North Carolina in the USA | Registered: November 15, 2011
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This is the movement. Thanks. - Joe Natale

Watch Movement
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Manchester, Connecticut in the USA | Registered: January 26, 2015
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Hi Joe your watch is most likely made by US Watch Co. of Waltham from 1903 7 jewels.You might want to contact Roger Nolfe he is upstate NY .
 
Posts: 4395 | Location: Arizona in the USA | Registered: July 23, 2011
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My great grandfather worked for the railroad in Pennsylvania in the early 20th century. He received this watch during his employment. Here is a photo of the watch cover that has an engraving of a locomotive.

Locomotive engraving on watch
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Manchester, Connecticut in the USA | Registered: January 26, 2015
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One last photo. This is the inside of the cover. There is a stamp here that reads "Philadelphia Watchcase Co." and beneath that "SILVERODE." Thanks. Here there is also a serial number that reads 920988. Thanks.

Inside cover
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Manchester, Connecticut in the USA | Registered: January 26, 2015
IHC Member 1555
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Trenton or New York Standard by the looks, at work and have not got access to any catalogs, pretty sure it is not a United States Watch Co of Waltham. Very unlikely that it was actually used in his job in an official capacity, just my two cents worth.
 
Posts: 2265 | Location: Gladstone in Australia | Registered: January 14, 2011
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Just to confirm Bila's post. This is a Trenton/N.Y. Standard 7J watch named "Peerless watch Co., but with no reference as to the actual customer they made them for. The case looks unmarked except for this movement suggesting that it could be original to the movement. The cap jewel on the Balance Cock side appears to be missing which is repairable given that the rest of the watch is equally as serviceable.

The one like this that passed through my collection has a slightly different Balance Cock, and it may be that the one on your watch is actually from a different watch. In any event, it is a 7 Jewel movement, but certainly looks like a RR watch when viewed "in the case".

As a family member's watch it is worth restoring, but only for that reason. The movement plate layout reflects styles made popular in England and used by Seth Thomas in the USA.

 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
IHC Member 1613
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Here is a picture of a Trention parts movement that I have laying around..I think the plate layout is the same..The balance cocks are different???

 
Posts: 2015 | Location: Chesapeake City, Maryland in the USA | Registered: September 27, 2011
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Here's a close up of the movement. Thanks. - Joe

 
Posts: 7 | Location: Manchester, Connecticut in the USA | Registered: January 26, 2015
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And a close up of the inside of the cover. Thanks.

inside cover close up
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Manchester, Connecticut in the USA | Registered: January 26, 2015
IHC Member 1613
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Joe,
If this is a Trenton Watch which I am thinking it is, according to the serial number it was made between 1898 and 1903...Trenton produced watches until 1908 and it was sold to Ingersoll Watch Co..
 
Posts: 2015 | Location: Chesapeake City, Maryland in the USA | Registered: September 27, 2011
IHC Life Member
Picture of David Abbe
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Closer inspection of the balance wheel and Balance Cock in the picture two frames up from this post indicates the balance wheel is uncut, making any adjustments for temperature irrelevant, and also the balance cock which has ONLY a pivot jewel has no sign of the top balance wheel staff pivot in that jewel.

I fear the original balance cock similar to our other pictures was replaced by something else, possibly including the balance wheel from that "something else".
 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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the balance got me off track it is Trenton for sure
 
Posts: 4395 | Location: Arizona in the USA | Registered: July 23, 2011
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RR watches, according to ball must have Arabic dials not Roman numeral.

I would contact Chris Abell here in the club. He is a professional and has reasonable prices. Chris is certified.
www.abellwatchmakers.com.
 
Posts: 1732 | Location: Enumclaw, Washington in the USA | Registered: October 02, 2011
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My sincere thanks to everyone for the information provided about his timepiece. It means a lot to me and my dad. - Joe Natale
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Manchester, Connecticut in the USA | Registered: January 26, 2015
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