Found this movement and it was ticking but looking closer I see a repair that is new on me. Little glue on the regulator pins who needs a hairspring stud!!!

another angle

Rob, I bought a watch about a year ago, an E. Howard, and when I received it something just wasn't right so I sent it to Chris to go through and he told me that it took nearly one full day for him to de-glue it, there was so much glue on it he said it looked like a full tube was used....

Regards

Jerry

I hope whoever did that had the decency to wrap the hairspring around the curb pins before they glued it. If your going to make a mess do it right!! Thanks for the great chuckle Rob.
Regards, John

Some people should not be allowed to work on ANYTHING!That's some pretty fancy work...Ted.

I'll bet the "craftman" that did that is pretty good with duct tape too

What a shame to do that to a 23 jewel Waltham.

When I see something like this, I can't help but wonder what they'll think of next.

It looks like the balance cock is elevated off the plate.

Hi Robert;

At the extremely high risk of looking like an i d i o t (hmmmm, wouldn't let me type that word), is there some way to point out what it is you're talking about? For example, where the glue is, and what the heck is a "regulator pin"?

I know it's likely sticking out like a white flag to you guys, but I have no idea what or where you're talking about.

Thanks Robert, and sorry for the really dumb question if it should be obvious.

Bud

Bud, do you have the Price Guide, 2010 Edition...? If so, go to page 56, there is the description topic: "Balance-Spring or Hairspring"....That will explain and show you exactly what Rob is talking about....

Regards,

Jerry

hoooo dear, what a sight, didnt train that monkey very well!
What next, this cant be a serious attempt to make a legitimate repair? a very very poor assault on a living machine sad person.
Merry Christmas to you all.
Ian.

You know, glue is how I fix all my old books.

This is a little known but cutting edge technique of precision watch regulation in which increased rate stability can be realized. As you will notice the watch is now "free sprung" and the beat can be finely set through the micro metric adjustment....very clever! Also note that the balance cock has been slightly propped up with either a piece of tooth pick, paper clip or carefully layered scotch tape. Also known as "cock propping", it is done to accommodate the extra room needed for the precision application of the special U.V. cured hairspring cement. This ingenious technique is now being taught at the finer Swiss watchmaking schools but is apparently being practiced here as well.

Hairspring gluing has been around for a very long time, in fact, Abraham Louis Breguet himself was once quoted as saying: "Malgré les régulateur route de contournement et libérer élasticité technical le long de à coq propping et coller c'est une véritable efficace méthode de précision réglementaire it's finir apparence physique trop de très semblable à l'oeuvre de une ivrogne à être réalisable. Par conséquent , MOI et les hommes dans mon employer êtes par la présente abandonner ça procédure." ...Translated: "Although the regulator bypass and free springing technique along with cock propping and super-glue is a very effective method of precision regulation, it's finished appearance looks too much like the work of a drunkard to be feasible. Therefore, I and the men in my employ are hereby abandoning this procedure".

Well, there you have it!

Merry Christmas

William

Goodness Bill. Just too funny. Good work.

Merry Christmas to all. That's even funnier than the beauty 950 Hamilton I just bought in a pawn shop. They used a bench knife to pry off the bezel, Chewed her up pretty good but they were persistent and got it off! Mind you,it was a threaded bezel!! What a mess they made of a lovely old sterling case! And I can just imagine the look on their faces when they saw that it would have unscrewed LOL

Hi Jerry;

Yes, I do have that book but looking at page 56 doesn't help me I'm afraid. I have no idea what it is you guys are talking about.

I think that's one of the reasons I decided very early on when geting into pocket watches, is the fact that I DO NOT want to get into fixing them. I have far too much time understanding what I'm looking at to get involved in them in that way.

Bud


Bud, do you have the Price Guide, 2010 Edition...? If so, go to page 56, there is the description topic: "Balance-Spring or Hairspring"....That will explain and show you exactly what Rob is talking about....

Bud the hairspring stud is held in by the screw and the hairspring is suppose to float in the pins

Also the balance bridge is laying down here is another model 92 out of case so you can see.

Bud, at the bottom of the page, page 56, it actually shows a picture with a description of the hairspring stud and it's location on the regulator....the hairspring stud is what is missing or broken in Rob's photo....so the hairspring is just held in place with glue....

Regards,

Jerry

Bud,

The regulator on mechanical watches works by making the EFFECTIVE length of the hairspring longer or shorter. This is done by the regulator pins getting closer or further away from the hairspring stud which is held stationary in the balance cock. The hairspring passes between the two regulator pins.

If you notice the hairspring originally posted is glued directly to the regulator pins thus rendering the regulator useless and eliminating the hairspring stud.

RR

William,

LOL... That's great, I didn't know you spoke French.

Robert,

I know how to fix the problem.

1. Get the watch and your camera and proceed to the bathroom.
2. Close the windows and doors and turn off any exhaust fans.
3. Take a long very hot shower.
4. While everything is foggy take pictures of the watch and make sure they're out of focus.
5. Post the pictures on a large online auction site. State the watch, "runs well" is sold As-Is and don't offer a return.

It's that easy,

RR

P.S. I know Robert would never do that but unfortunately it's not uncommon.

LOL I could just stand on my roof and take a picture of it on the ground.

Ha ha ha, you guys are too funny. Thanks a lot, I now know what you guys were talking about where the glue is. Thanks a lot guys

I don't speak anything but Spanish, Canadian and American so it'll be a while before I can communicate real well with William about Monsewer Bricket over there. Very nice commentary about those funny French lads William. Very nice.

Bud