Hi Paul; I happened to have a parts 1895, 14 size so I checked and no- they are different,the 84 is a bit larger, My watch is a double roller whereas the 85 is a single roller. I dont know enough about them to know if that would make a difference. Do you know if the would be a different size, one a single roller the other a double.
Other thing I noticed in GUIDE+++++to WATCHES in the Waltham identification section there is the 1874-84 Model and also a model 1884 both 14 size. I also found an example of the 1884 and checked it also. It was different as well.ie too small- it might be the same as the 1885. Thanks for the input thus far.

I am now, officially, in over my head... along for the ride from here.

I have a few #2844 staffs marked as 88 and 95 parts. And a Paulson's Waltham staff box and a Swartchilds staff box... both skip 14 size.

Double roller could be a problem too.. The #2844's are single roller staffs.

So, worse comes to worse. Someone here will be able to mic one out if it comes down to that.

I am sorry to hear of your aversion to deep water Paul. I had been hoping to ride on your back until we were back on dry land . However the problem will be solved eventually. I will continue looking and searching. Worse case I will remove staff and measure it but not yet as I would sooner have a watch with broken staff than a bunch of parts, Thanks for know.
Anybody out there who may have some idea where I can find a staff please jump in.

HI; RECENT UPDATE!! The watch is now running!! After doing a lot of looking and measuring I determined ( balance wheel was from a model 1892.
(B balance staff was an original 1874 fitted with a double roller ( I assume that was original to the 1874 but have no info. on that. (C. spring barrel was original as was the MS.
I was fortunate to have a NOS spring in fine shape so it went in. The balance staff was purchased from Dash 2.
I just finished putting in the staff and assembling the watch and it took of like a scaulded rabbit! It sure felt good to see it running. Has been a fun project to sort it out and get it running. I will add a couple more pics of it running and cleaned. I will a couple more on in a few days when I have cleaned the case and have it completed.

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No. 4. Sorry the pics are not better. Should spend more time learning how to take pica !!

Way cool... looking forward to the finished pics.

Been a little tardy with my updates. I think it is finally finished. I had a little fun getting it to run well in all positions but after chasing ghosts for a while determined it was hairspring. To summarize:
Balance is from Waltham 1892 fitted to a staff from a Waltham 1874. I think hairspring, roller are 1874.
Main spring and barrel are original 1874.
Dial appears to be original 1874, not been altered and has all 3 posts. Unfortunately has some crazing at the post areas. I will look for a good replacement but probably not plentiful (Anybody!!!).
Case is ygf C.W.C Co. 314905 in decent condition. I fitted it with a new crystal and gave it a little rub and I think it looks pretty good. I will add a few more pics. Thank you to everyone who contributed and looked in.

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Way cool, looks great. Those cases for the swing arm lever set are hard to come by. Yours looks really nice.

Thank you Paul.