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Henry Moser "Signals" watch

Hi everyone here. New member just joined and directed here by a contributor to another forums.
This is causing some head scratching. I have been offered this watch by someone I know reasonably well. It seems to me that it is some kind of pocket watch conversion or else it is what it appears to be with some "improvements" to the dial. I would greatly appreciate some opinions as he is asking a significant price.
Regards, Roy

 
Posts: 17 | Location: Brighton in the United Kingdom | Registered: April 04, 2017
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Only one image at a time?

 
Posts: 17 | Location: Brighton in the United Kingdom | Registered: April 04, 2017
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and another

 
Posts: 17 | Location: Brighton in the United Kingdom | Registered: April 04, 2017
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yet more...

 
Posts: 17 | Location: Brighton in the United Kingdom | Registered: April 04, 2017
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and finally...

 
Posts: 17 | Location: Brighton in the United Kingdom | Registered: April 04, 2017
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Is there any way of contracting my user name? Whilst not wishing to be positively cryptic I'd prefer to supply a minimum of information in the current climate of identity piracy.
Roy
 
Posts: 17 | Location: Brighton in the United Kingdom | Registered: April 04, 2017
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This appears to be a somewhat modified example of the WW 1 Moser Signal Corps, Corps of Engineers, US Army wristwatch. Here is a photo of one that one of the guys here kindly shared with us, along with many other different maker examples of this Army wrist watch that were procured by the Corps of Engineers for the use of certain of their men during the first world war. Some differences are that the hands on your are not the same, and the back has had all of the Army identification engraving either polished off or a new incorrect back cover has been installed.

In general these are not common watches, but they are not solid gold either. One that has been modified might attract a lower price than an all original one in my way of viewing such things, especially one that is lacking its military markings on the back of the case.

Moser Signal Corps watch
 
Posts: 869 | Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA | Registered: September 20, 2004
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Many thanks for the observations which coincide generally with my relatively uninformed opinion. I've seen enough of these "military upgrades" to be immediately suspicious.
No one has mentioned the Cyrillic text. I believe Moser had a Russian subsidiary but how would that appear on a U.S. Signal Corps watch? Seems entirely wrong to me.
Unfortunately the person (who I know) who offered it to me paid a four figure sum for this watch and wants to recover it with a profit. Hmm....
Roy
 
Posts: 17 | Location: Brighton in the United Kingdom | Registered: April 04, 2017
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Slight misunderstanding. I'd like to truncate my user name for security reasons where general dissemination is involved -
I can't see where this change is possible in my user profile.
Roy
 
Posts: 17 | Location: Brighton in the United Kingdom | Registered: April 04, 2017
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Welcome to the IHC185 Internet club !! You will need to contact the administration through an email to make changes to your log in or anything in your profile or contact info.

regards,
bb
 
Posts: 6376 | Location: Texas in the USA | Registered: July 27, 2009
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Roy,

I have updated your profile information.

Debbie
 
Posts: 5171 | Location: Northern Ohio in the U.S.A. | Registered: December 04, 2002
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I have found the old Hy Moser watches to be interesting. I have repaired examples of Moser U.S. Army Signal Corps wristwatches and Moser pocket watches made for the Imperial Russian government and Moser watches made for civilian Russian market.

In my opinion, the dial on the above watch has been repainted/refinished with fake Signal Corps markings.

The watch appears to me to be a converted Hy Moser pocket watch. I strongly suspect the conversion from pocket to wristwatch took place recently.

Sorry to be so blunt, but if the above watch was offered to me for purchase I would decline. In my opinion the above Moser watch has no collectors value.
 
Posts: 1895 | Location: East Lansing, Michigan USA | Registered: November 24, 2002
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Greg knows these much better than I do and I would pay close attention to his thoughts if it were being offered to me.
 
Posts: 869 | Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA | Registered: September 20, 2004
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Here is my Moser that I bought several years ago as a project watch...You guessed it, it now sits in a drawer probably will never get refinished...Looks like this one is pin set...

 
Posts: 2003 | Location: Chesapeake City, Maryland in the USA | Registered: September 27, 2011
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Pic #2

 
Posts: 2003 | Location: Chesapeake City, Maryland in the USA | Registered: September 27, 2011
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Pic #3

 
Posts: 2003 | Location: Chesapeake City, Maryland in the USA | Registered: September 27, 2011
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Hi Gary, Yes, it needs a little work but it is the real thing.
 
Posts: 1895 | Location: East Lansing, Michigan USA | Registered: November 24, 2002
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