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question about a hamilton robert

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September 24, 2005, 11:51
Don Herrington
question about a hamilton robert
hello, i just purchased a hamilton robert after passing on it earlier. the price was up there....

i did make a phone call to the seller after pondering on my way home. i bought it but do not have it available for a picture. (maybe by wednesday i will go it)

it is 14k solid gold and in extra fine condition. it measures about 28 or 29mm long and about 23 wide.....

it has a 19 jewel movement with an "H" in a circle marked on it (it isn't a 982)

my reserves about buying it this morning were regarding firstly the dial.

it is not a black dial as seen in the shugart listings. also rather than arabic numbers it has only gold squares for the hours....

secondly it has a fourth wheel where the one pictured in the guide has no second hand or register.

also the guide lists the robert as 17 jewels and either gents or ladies.

are there two versions of this watch?

the watch was part of an original estate of which i did buy 3 of the pocket watches from. the dial that is on the watch is very nice and appears original....


any ideas as to wether or not i bought a mix and match?
September 24, 2005, 17:32
Bryan J. Girouard
The watch pictured as the "Robert" in the Shugart guide is actually the ladies version, known as the "Roberta."

The men's version usually came with the 19-jewel grade 754 movement which has a seconds hand register on the dial, so it sounds like everything is correct on yours.


Bryan J. Girouard
Art Deco Wristwatches
September 24, 2005, 21:06
Don Herrington
bryan, thank you sincerely. i somewhat expected that there may be a ladies and a mens variation of this watch.
September 25, 2005, 19:55
Dave Freeman
Don,

here's a picture of a very nice 14K Hamilton
"Roberta" that I picked up a couple of months ago.

Hamilton Roberta.jpg



Dave Freeman
IHC Member 321
September 26, 2005, 19:50
Don Herrington
hi dave, that looks like the watch i bought without sub second hand. i still have to pick it up. the hour markers on yours look the same too. i will post a picture of it towards the end of the week.

thanks for the pic!
September 27, 2005, 05:29
William J. Hansen, Ph.D.
Roberta in yellow gold:

http://cgi.ebay.com/LADIES-HAMILTON-14K-GOLD-VINTAGE-WA...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Bill Hansen
IHC# 198
Life Member# 17
September 27, 2005, 17:58
Don Herrington
its a little dirty inside....


September 27, 2005, 17:58
Don Herrington
movement and mark


September 27, 2005, 18:00
Don Herrington
close dial


September 27, 2005, 18:28
Dave Freeman
Don,
very nice, I guess between the two of us we've now got both the mens and ladies models. Do I smell a possible trade in the wind???? Eek


Dave Freeman
IHC Member 321
September 27, 2005, 21:22
Don Herrington
possibly dave, i put a bid on the one bill posted earlier though....
January 06, 2006, 14:49
Dan Mitchell
The Robert dial above is correct according to the Rondeau book - some general watch "guides" are not always accurate - in particular prices in these books often bear no relation to current actual auction prices - so treat the info therein with caution.

Dan.
January 06, 2006, 16:38
William J. Hansen, Ph.D.
It is a huge honor to have Dan Mitchell posting on our wrist watch board. His understanding about the Hamilton watch company, particularly but not exclusively the electrics, is extraordinary. He is also a watch maker. He can, and does provide great information about wrist watch restoration. I'm so delighted to have Dan Mtichell, from West Walton, England participate in our Chapter 185 on-line community.


Bill Hansen
IHC# 198
Life Member# 17
January 06, 2006, 21:22
Tony Dukes
Dan,
Welcome to the 185 community and thanks for your input.