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Found this great buy, $125, at an antique I only visit on a lark.

Movt# 5,154,165
Case# 7,988,320

Anyone know model name, production year, what 3/0 means on inside case? Anything else?

thanks,
Jim Carcioppolo

Ill 2a
 
Posts: 109 | Location: Livermore, California in the USA | Registered: August 05, 2011
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Movt

 
Posts: 109 | Location: Livermore, California in the USA | Registered: August 05, 2011
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Movt close-up

 
Posts: 109 | Location: Livermore, California in the USA | Registered: August 05, 2011
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Outside case

 
Posts: 109 | Location: Livermore, California in the USA | Registered: August 05, 2011
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Inside case

 
Posts: 109 | Location: Livermore, California in the USA | Registered: August 05, 2011
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James:

3/0 is the movement size.

The model name could be "Tivoli" as marked on the inside of the case.

Marty
 
Posts: 420 | Location: Alabama in the USA | Registered: January 26, 2012
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James,
Nice looking watch!
For starters:Grade: 24 Your's was one of a run of 2,000, out of a total production of 114,590 from 1915 thru 1924.

Movement Serial Number:5154165
Estimated Production Year: 1929
Run Quantity: 2000
Size: 3/0s
Jewels: 17j
Movement Configuration: Hunting
Model: 4
Movement Setting: Pendant
Railroad Grade: No

This data indicates the movement was also used in a Hunting style pendant case.

This information is available on: Pocketwatchdatabase.com


Dave Turner
 
Posts: 1979 | Location: Wilson, North Carolina in the USA | Registered: November 15, 2011
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Thanks for info guys!
 
Posts: 109 | Location: Livermore, California in the USA | Registered: August 05, 2011
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Great buy
 
Posts: 5101 | Location: Buffalo, New York in the USA | Registered: November 11, 2009
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This is a Model 4 Unnamed grade movement.

"Tivoli" is a case grade and denotes gold filled. Here are a few others;

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Case Grade///////Case Material
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.925 Fine,//- Sterling Silver

Adams,//- Yellow - Mat'l not currently known

Bona Fide,//- Gold-Filled, guaranteed for 20 years

Commander,//- Gold-Filled, guaranteed for 20 years up to March 1895, 25 years after 1899.

Elgin Giant,//- 10K Gold-Filled, guaranteed for 20 years up to March 1900

Elgin Pride,//- 16K Gold-Filled, guaranteed for 25 years up to 1900, 1/4 gold (25% weight was gold) thereafter.

Elgin Tiger,//- Rolled Gold Plate, guaranteed for 5 Years

Empire,//- Gold-Filled, guaranteed for 25 years.

Famous,//- Gold-colored Base Metal

Monitor,//- Gold-Filled, guaranteed for 5 years

Napoleon,//- Gold-Filled, guaranteed for 10 years up to 1900, 25 years later.

Nickel Silver,//- Nickel

Nubian,//- Gun Metal, some w/ Gold Inlays

Pride-of-Elgin,//- 16K Gold-Filled, guaranteed for 25 years up to 1900, 1/4 gold (25% weight was gold) thereafter.

Ramona,//- Gold-Filled, Double Stock, guaranteed for 20 years.

Royal Golden,//- Composition

Spartan Base Metal,- chrome-plated case, introduced in the very late 1920s or in the 1930s.

Supreme,//- Gold-Filled, guaranteed for 10 years - in earlier years

Supreme Base Metal,//- chrome-plated case, introduced in the very late 1920s or in the 1930s.

Tivoli,//- 14K Gold-Filled, Post-1924.

Unmarked,//- Nickel

The Winner,//- (Horse Head Trade Mark), Gold-filled, guaranteed for 20 years.

regards,
bb
 
Posts: 6376 | Location: Texas in the USA | Registered: July 27, 2009
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Thanks Buster, will print that out.
 
Posts: 109 | Location: Livermore, California in the USA | Registered: August 05, 2011
IHC Life Member
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James, according to the Illinois watch reference book by Friedberg, I believe your watch is the "Ace." See attached photos.

 
Posts: 718 | Location: Upstate New York in the USA | Registered: November 21, 2008
IHC Life Member
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Here is the description from the book. Hope you can read it.

 
Posts: 718 | Location: Upstate New York in the USA | Registered: November 21, 2008
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The book says this model was produced in 1920.

 
Posts: 718 | Location: Upstate New York in the USA | Registered: November 21, 2008
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