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Putnam?

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June 25, 2006, 23:00
Michael Dias
Putnam?
This watch was on EBay and listed as a Putnam. Would anyone disagree? I like the watch and it's deco influence. It has a simular profile of the Putnam, but I haven't seen one quite like it, especially without the seconds register.


June 26, 2006, 08:01
Mark Nathanson
Does the inside of the case say Putnam or Hamilton? Nice looking case. I do not know the answer, but someone will know. Did you win the watch?
June 26, 2006, 09:24
Bryan J. Girouard
The watch is not a Hamilton Putnam. And with the exception of the movement (which would be incorrect for a Putnam anyhow), the watch isn't even a Hamilton.

This is a generic Art Deco styled case from the 1930s or 1940s made to house any number of 6/0 size movements from manufacturers such as Hamilton, Elgin, Illinois, etc. I have a number of discount jewelry and watch catalogs from the 1930s and 1940s which show these aftermarket cases sold as complete watches with reconditioned movements at fairly inexpensive prices. I presume the movements came from watches in which the original cases had been scrapped. At any rate, it was a way to give new life to an old watch.

The case is somewhat similar to the Hamilton Putnam, but has additional steps and detailing not found on the original Hamilton case. It will also lack the proper Hamilton and Wadsworth hallmarks inside the caseback.

The dial is also aftermarket, made to fit the case and the movement... Hamilton did not make a 986 or 986A powered watch with a rectangular dial configuration.


Bryan J. Girouard
Art Deco Wristwatches
June 26, 2006, 13:34
Dan Mitchell
THIS - is a real Putnam - very difficult to find without wear on the many sharp corners of the case.


Dan

Putnam picture

June 26, 2006, 13:48
Mark Nathanson
The cases looks different from the last post. Are you saying it isn't a Putnam?
June 26, 2006, 14:03
Dan Mitchell
If you mean the pic. at the top of this thread from Mr Dias - then that is most definately NOT a Putnam.

Dan
June 26, 2006, 14:55
Michael Dias
Thanks for all the responses. I had my suspicions, but the case is a rather attractive speciman.
June 27, 2006, 16:56
Dan Mitchell
Many of these watches which were made up in new cases have -- Hamilton Movement --- on the dial - indicating that only the movement is genuine Hamilton - the rest, case and dial, are replacements.

dan
June 27, 2006, 21:37
William J. Hansen, Ph.D.
The Putnam is magnificent. True Delicious Deco.




Bill Hansen
IHC# 198
Life Member# 17
June 27, 2006, 23:19
Michael Dias
Oh Bill,
June 27, 2006, 23:20
Michael Dias
Bill, I really like that Putnam! What styling they have. I'm Deco all the way!
Mike
June 28, 2006, 05:18
Dan Mitchell
Because of all the sharp edges to the Putnam case style it is very difficult to find an example that is not showing brass along the edges - this makes it an expensive watch to find a good one.

A white gold-filled version might look fine rhodium plated, if anyone out there knows where rhodium plating can be done ?


Dan.