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EXCLUSIVE FEATURE - ILLINOIS SANGAMO SPECIAL MODEL 9 DATABASE - "Click" to Login or Register 
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_________________ILLINOIS SANGAMO SPECIAL MODEL 9 DATABASE___________________


YEAR____MOVEMENT____JEWELS_____COLOR____DIAMOND____BRIDGE____NOTES______
1913
__________2541342_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Double Roller, 6, screws down
__________2541353_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Double Roller, 6, screws down 12/27/2010 $1,204 E

__________2565954_______19_________Gold________Yes_________True______Screws down balance cap
__________2565941_______19_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down
__________2565997_______19_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down
__________2565998_______19_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down
__________2575118_______19_________Gold________Yes_________True______Screws down 11/19/2006 $600 JH
__________2575148_______19_________Gold________Yes_________True______**Screws down
__________2575178_______19_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down
__________2575185_______19_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down, 11/21/11 $824 E

__________2575253_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws down
__________2575254_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down, 11/30/2010 $304 E
__________2575263_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down, 6/18/2006 $450 JH
__________2575284_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws down, 4/19/2009 $350 JH
__________2575475_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws down
__________2575512_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2575598_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2575617_______21_________Gold________No__________True______Screws down
__________2575712_______21_________Gold________No__________True______Screws down
__________2575770_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down
__________2575773_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down

__________2575803_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screw down 10/26/2014
__________2575839_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws down
__________2575881_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down 5/22/2010 $750
__________2575892_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down
__________2575907_______23_________Gold________No__________True______Screws down
__________2575910_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws down
__________2575948_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down 1/06/2011 $776 E
__________2575963_______23_________Gold________--__________True_____
__________2575977_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws down 10/2011 $405 E

__________2575652_______21_________Unknown_____Donald D. McGregor List

__________2575980_______23_________Unknown_____Donald D. McGregor List
__________2576050_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws down


YEAR____MOVEMENT____JEWELS_____COLOR____DIAMOND____BRIDGE____NOTES______
1914
__________2615234_______19_________Unknown_____Donald D. McGregor List
__________2615243_______19_________Unknown_____Donald D. McGregor List
__________2615322_______19_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2615368_______19_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 12/2011 $621 E
__________2615386_______19_________Gold________No__________True______**Screws up balance cap, 6/21/2009 $800
__________2615457_______19_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2615482_______19_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 2/2011 $816 E
__________2615487_______19_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up

__________2615552_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______**Screws up
__________2615570_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2615633_______21_________Unknown_____Donald D. McGregor List
__________2615667_______21_________Unknown_____Donald D. McGregor List
__________2615700_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2615701_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up 2/22/2011 $427 E
__________2615711_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*PL "L.W. Suter",Screws up, RARE VARIANT, 6/18/2006 $1,100 JH
__________2615714_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up, RARE VARIANT, 11/7/2010 $1,575 E
__________2615735_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2615778_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up, 9/25/2011 $560 E
__________2615816_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up, 11/21/2011 $425 E
__________2615914_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______Screws up
__________2615944_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2615967_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______**Screws up
__________2615975_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up

__________2618010_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up, 4/19/2009 $650 JH
__________2618050_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______Screws up
__________2618069_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up 5/7/2011 $700 JH
__________2618088_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2618093_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up, 4/15/2011 $798 E, 5/10/2011 $621.99 E
__________2618105_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2618256_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______**Screws up
__________2618371_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up, 6/9/2012 $899 E
__________2618382_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up

__________2658854_______19_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Model 8 Hunter, Screws up, 6/18/2006 $9,800 JH
__________2658879_______19_________Gold________No__________True______*Model 8 Hunter, Screws up
__________2658891_______19_________Gold________No__________True______*Model 8 Hunter, Screws up

__________2658927_______21_________Gold________--___________True______*Model 8 Hunter

__________2658955_______23_________Gold________Yes__________True______*Model 8 Hunter, 6/18/2006 $9,200 JH
__________2658977_______23_________Unknown_____Donald D. McGregor List
__________2658999_______23_________Gold________--___________True______*Model 8 Hunter


YEAR____MOVEMENT____JEWELS_____COLOR____DIAMOND____BRIDGE____NOTES______
1915
__________2728156_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up balance cap
__________2728210_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2728238_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up 5/22/2010 $450 JH
__________2728252_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up 4/15/2011 $485 E
__________2728312_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2728366_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2728382_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2728417_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2728480_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up 11/13/2011 $290 E
__________2728525_______21_________Gold________No__________True______Screws up
__________2728553_______21_________Gold________Yes_________True______Screws up
__________2728659_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2728674_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2728697_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up

__________2734014_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2734040_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 5/7/2011 $700 JH
__________2734084_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2734169_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2734216_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 1/17/11 $462 E
__________2734249_______23_________Gold________Yes_________True______*Screws up
__________2734273_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up

__________2790133_______19_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up, 2/2012 $960 E
__________2790139_______19_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2790150_______19_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up, 4/21/2010 $1,260 E
__________2790157_______19_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up, 3/2012 $620 E
__________2790193_______19_________Red_________No__________True______Screws up
__________2790208_______19_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up 11/18/2007 $650 JH
__________2790224_______19_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2790248_______19_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2790258_______19_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up

__________2790352_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2790409_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up, 9/11/2011 $305 E
__________2790456_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up, 11/2014 $404
__________2790500_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2790519_______21_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2790589_______21_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up, __________2790618_______21_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up, 4/19/2009 $325 JH
__________2790621_______21_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up, 4/2011 $430 E
__________2790816_______21_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2790911_______21_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up 11/27/2010 $313 E
__________2790956_______21_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2790962_______21_________Red_________No__________True______*Screws up

__________2798014_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2798047_______23_________Gold________No__________True______Screws up 5/2010 $800 E
__________2798084_______23_________Gold________No__________True_________
__________2798160_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 5/2011 $590.55 E
__________2798182_______23_________Gold________No__________True_________
__________2798197_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*PL "The Supreme N Gamse New York", 6/18/2006 $6,000 JH
__________2798198_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*PL "The Supreme N Gamse New York", Sold Together JH
__________2798215_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2798249_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 6/2006 $750 JH
__________2798286_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2798519_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 4/2011 $510 E
__________2798533_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 7/12
__________2798554_______23_________Gold________No__________True______**Screws up
__________2798588_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up
__________2798634_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 11/2010 $601 E
__________2798662_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 4/12 (EB)
__________2798665_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 11/12
__________2798683_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up 4/12
__________2798693_______23_________Gold________No__________True______*Screws up

__________2835773_______21_________Black_______Yes_________False_____*Screws up, RARE VARIANT ~SEE BELOW

__________2868518_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2868525_______23_________Gold________No__________False______**Screws up
__________2868592_______23_________Gold________No__________False______Screws up (DM)
__________2868599_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2868628_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up, 9/2006 $500 JH
__________2868644_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2868753_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up 4/12

__________2868819______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up (EB) •
__________2868820______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up (EB) •
__________2868821______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up (EB) •

__________2868888_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2868945_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up, JH
__________2869000_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up, 7/30/2012 $810 E
__________2869002_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up, 1/2011 $634 __________2869432_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up


YEAR____MOVEMENT____JEWELS_____COLOR____DIAMOND____BRIDGE____NOTES______
1916
__________2917418_______19_________Red_________No__________False______Screws up balance cap, 11/17/1996 $475 JH
__________2917420_______19_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up, 10/2010 $1,300 JH
__________2917430_______19_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2917437_______19_________Red_________No__________False________
__________2917445_______19_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up 1/2011 $461 E
__________2917486_______19_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up 5/2011 $1,100 JH
__________2917547_______19_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up 6/2006 $400 JH
__________2917551_______19_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2917566_______19_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2917568_______19_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up 5/2011 $775 E
__________2917587_______19_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up

__________2917617_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2917626_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up 11/27/2010 $588 E
__________2917652_______23_________Gold________No__________False______Screws up
__________2917728_______23_________Gold________No__________False______Screws up 11/17/2001 $1,000 JH
__________2917760_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up 5/22/2010 $600 JH
__________2917769_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2917855_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up 9/7/2011 $576 E
__________2917883_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2917926_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2917991_______23_________Gold________No__________False______*Screws up

__________2968006_______21_________Red_________No__________False______**Screws up
__________2968018_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2968091_______21_________Red_________No__________False______Screws up
__________2968134_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2968236_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2968340_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up

__________2970007_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2970072_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2970090_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up, 6/25/2012 $560 E
__________2970128_______23_________Red_________No__________False______Screws up
__________2970175_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up, 9/28/2008 $500 JH
__________2970198_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2970317_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2970361_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up, 1/08/2011 $747
__________2970369_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up, 4/19/2009 $600 JH
__________2970370_______23_________Red_________No__________False______
__________2970420_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up, 11/11/2010 $557 E
__________2970434_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2970450_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up
__________2970453_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up, Gold Case, 1/23/2011 $1,525
__________2970175_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws up, 9/28/2008 $500 JH
__________2977203_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Model 8 Hunter, Screws up
__________2977246_______23_________Red_________No__________False______*Model 8 Hunter, Screws up, 11/19/2006 $4,400 JH
__________2977251_______23_________Red_________--__________False______*Model 8 Hunter, Screws up


YEAR____MOVEMENT____JEWELS_____COLOR____DIAMOND____BRIDGE____NOTES______
1918
__________3251065_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws down balance cap
__________3251170_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws down 5/21/2011 $393 E
__________3251181_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws down
__________3251199_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws down, 12/18/2011 $550 E
__________3251227_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws down, 3/2012 $338 E
__________3251272_______21_________Red_________No__________False______**Screws down
__________3251286_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws down, 7/3/2012 $568 E
__________3251287_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws down, 9/10/2010 $660 E __________3251295_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws down
__________3251330_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws down
__________3251363_______21_________Red_________No__________False______*Screws down ~ SEE BELOW

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Many thanks to everyone who have contributed data to the IHC185™ for this project.
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NOTES:
(1)Model 8 Sangamo Specials (hunters) and will be included in the database.
(2)Not factory cased.
(3)Size 16 only in open and hunter case.
(4)All going barrels or NON motor barrel.
(5)Total production: 8,320.
(6)True bridge production: 5,380.
(7)False bridge production: 2,940.
(8)Model 8 (hunters) production: 250.
(9)23-Jewel Sangamo Specials all have "Crosshatch" demaskeen pattern.
(10)19/21-Jewel Sangamo Specials all have "Broad Transverse Band" demaskeen pattern.
(11)No specific style of dial was used. Offered; bold, regular, Arabic, Gothic and Montgomery.
*Picture of movement on file
**SAMPLE

DIAMOND: Diamond-End Balance Cap

 
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23 JEWEL SANGAMO SPECIAL - TRUE BRIDGE

YEAR_______RUN________SERIAL_NUMBER_______QUANTITY
1913
______________3________(2,541,391-2,541,400)____________10
______________7________(2,575,801-2,576,100)___________300

1914
_____________10________(2,618,001-2,618,400)___________400
_____________13________(2,658,951-2,659,000)____________50 Model 8

1915
_____________16________(2,734,001-2,734,300)___________300
_____________19________(2,798,001-2,798,700)___________700

NOTES:
(1)Enamel inlay markings on the movement come in: gold, red or other?
(2)All "Crosshatch" demaskeen pattern.
(3)Total production 1,710 with only 50 model 8.
(4)Sapphire jeweled barrel.
(5)Marked: "Jeweled Barrel" on barrel bridge rather than center bridge.


Below: 23 Jewel Sangamo Special, true bridge, model 9 open face, gold inlay, flat capped balance jewel "screws up".

 
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23 JEWEL SANGAMO SPECIAL - FALSE BRIDGE

YEAR_______RUN________SERIAL_NUMBER_______QUANTITY
1915
_____________21________(2,868,401-2,869,100)___________700

1916
_____________23________(2,917,601-2,918,000)___________400
_____________24________(2,920,001-2,920,100)___________100
_____________26________(2,970,001-2,970,500)___________500
_____________27________(2,977,201-2,977,300)___________100 Model 8

1917
_____________28________(3,094,951-3,094,960)____________10

NOTES:
(1)Enamel inlay markings on the movement come in: gold, red or other?
(2)All "Crosshatch" demaskeen pattern.
(3)Total production 1,710 with only 100 model 8.
(4)Sapphire jeweled barrel.
(5)Marked: "Jeweled Barrel" on center bridge rather than barrel bridge.


Stock photo: 23 Jewel Sangamo Special, false bridge, model 9 open face, red inlay, flat capped balance jewel "screws up".

 
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21 JEWEL SANGAMO SPECIAL - TRUE BRIDGE

YEAR_______RUN________SERIAL_NUMBER_______QUANTITY
1913
______________1________(2,541,331-2,541,340)____________10
______________2________(2,541,351-2,541,360)____________10
______________6________(2,575,201-2,575,800)___________600

1914
______________9________(2,615,501-2,616,000)___________500
_____________12________(2,658,901-2,658,950)____________50 Model 8

1915
_____________14________(2,728,101-2,728,700)___________600
_____________18________(2,790,301-2,791,000)___________700

NOTES:
(1)Enamel inlay markings on the movement come in: gold, red, or other?
(2)All "Broad Transverse Band" demaskeen pattern.
(3)Total production 2,420 with only 50 model 8.
(4)Not marked "Jeweled Barrel".


Stock photo: 21 Jewel Sangamo Special, true bridge, model 9 open face, gold inlay, Diamond-end stone balance jewel "screws up".

 
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21 JEWEL SANGAMO SPECIAL - FALSE BRIDGE

YEAR_______RUN________SERIAL_NUMBER_______QUANTITY
1915
_____________20________(2,835,771-2,835,800)____________30

1916
_____________25________(2,968,001-2,968,500)___________500

1918
_____________32________(3,251,001-3,251,400)___________400

NOTES:
(1)Enamel inlay markings on the movement come in: gold, red, or other?
(2)All "Broad Transverse Band" demaskeen pattern.
(3)Total production 930 all model 9.
(4)Not marked "Jeweled Barrel".


Stock photo: 21 Jewel Sangamo Special, false bridge, model 9 open face, red inlay, flat capped balance jewel "screws up".

 
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19 JEWEL SANGAMO SPECIAL - TRUE BRIDGE

YEAR_______RUN________SERIAL_NUMBER_______QUANTITY
1913
______________4________(2,565,901-2,566,000)___________100
______________5________(2,575,001-2,575,200)___________200

1914
______________8________(2,615,201-2,615,500)___________300
_____________11________(2,658,851-2,658,900)____________50 Model 8

1915
_____________15________(2,728,701-2,729,000)___________300
_____________17________(2,790,101-2,790,300)___________200

NOTES:
(1)Enamel inlay markings on the movement come in: gold, red, or other?
(2)All "Broad Transverse Band" demaskeen pattern.
(3)Total production 1,150 with only 50 model 8.
(4)Sapphire jeweled barrel.
(5)Marked: "Jeweled Barrel" on barrel bridge rather than center bridge.


Stock photo: 19 Jewel Sangamo Special, true bridge, model 9 open face, red inlay, flat caped balance jewel "screws up".

 
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19 JEWEL SANGAMO SPECIAL - FALSE BRIDGE

YEAR_______RUN________SERIAL_NUMBER_______QUANTITY
1916
_____________22________(2,917,401-2,917,600)___________200

NOTES:
(1)Enamel inlay markings on the movement come in: gold, red, or other?
(2)All "Broad Transverse Band" demaskeen pattern.
(3)Total production 200 all model 9.
(4)Sapphire jeweled barrel.
(5)Marked: "Jeweled Barrel" on center bridge rather than barrel bridge.

19 Jewel Sangamo Special, false bridge, model 9 open face, red inlay, flat capped balance jewel "screws up".

 
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GOING BARREL (LEFT) JEWELED MOTOR BARREL (RIGHT)

 
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RARE AND UNUSUAL VARIANTS

1912_________"Diamond, Ruby & Saphire"__________

NOTES:
(1)Equivalant to Sangamo Special and considered Illinois highest grade for the time.
(2)Marked: "Illinois Watch Co." on barrel bridge as opposed to below balance wheel.
(3)Grade 710.
(4)Marked: "Adjusted Six Positions' on the finger bridge and not on center bridge.
(5)Not marked adjusted to "Temperature" anywhere.
(6)Marked: DOUBLE ROLLER below balance wheel in black.

 
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RARE AND UNUSUAL VARIANTS

1913_________"Earliest Recorded Model 9 Sangamo Special"__________

NOTES:
(1)Marked: DOUBLE ROLLER below balance wheel. Others marked: D.R. between center and third wheel bridge.
(2)Marked: "6" positions rather than spelled out "six".
(3)Marked: 21 Jewels on the finger bridge and not the center bridge.
(4)Marked: "Illinois Watch Co." on center bridge as opposed to below balance wheel.
(5)Marked: "Sangamo Special" straight line fixed font as opposed to variable height font.
(6)Not marked adjusted to "Temperature" anywhere.

 
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1915_________"Earliest False Bridge Sangamo Special Recorded"___________

NOTES:
(1)Enamel inlay markings are BLACK rather than gold or red.
(2)Not marked "Illinois Watch Co." anywhere on bridge or under balance wheel.
(3)Marked: 21 Jewels on the finger bridge and not the center bridge.
(4)Marked: "Sangamo Special" using a fixed font size as opposed to variable height font.
(5)Marked: "Adjusted Temp. and Six Positions" as opposed to fully marked "Temperature".

 
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1914_________"Private Label Sangamo Special"__________

NOTES:
(1)Marked: "L.W. Suter, Seattle" on center bridge
(2)Marked: 21 Jewels on the finger bridge and not the center bridge.
(3)True Bridge Model 9.
(4)Not marked "Jeweled Barrel".

 
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1914________"Straight Signature Sangamo Special"_________

NOTES:
(1)Run (9) Sangamo Specials Model 9
(2)Marked: ADJUSTED TEMPERATURE SIX POSITIONS.
(3)Marked: D.R. between center and wheel bridge.
(4)Marked: 21 JEWEL on finger bridge.
(5)Not marked "Jeweled Barrel".
**pillar plate markings are similar to other 21J SS within this run. The only visible difference are the makings on the center and wheel bridge.

 
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The 1917 Oskamp-Nolting Jewelry Catalog

 
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Sangamon River: river in central Illinois, U.S. It rises near Ellsworth in McLean county and flows briefly southeast. It then curves southwest, bending around Decatur, where a dam impounds Lake Decatur, and turns west to pass near Springfield, the state capital, and then north and west to join the Illinois River just north of Beardstown after a course of about 240 miles (385 km). The river drains an area of some 5,400 square miles (14,000 square km). The Sangamon's main tributaries are Salt Creek and South Fork Sangamon River. The first Illinois home (1830) of Abraham Lincoln was a few miles southwest of Decatur on a bluff above the river; the site is now the Lincoln Trail Homestead State Memorial. In 1831 Lincoln moved to New Salem on the Sangamon River, about 20 miles (30 km) northwest of Springfield. That site is now within Lincoln's New Salem State Historic Site. Along the river at Monticello is Robert Allerton Park, a 1,500-acre (600-hectare) area with nature trails and landscaped gardens. "Sangamon River" from Encyclopædia Britannica Online.

Sangamon County: Sangamon County, originally referred to in records as Sangamo, received its name from the Indians. Sangamo, in the Pottawatamee language, is said to mean "a country where there is plenty to eat." To these Indians, who were of both plains and woodland type, the prairies with their fertile soil and forests abounding in game, large and small, elk, buffaloes, and fur bearing animals, were a paradise. History has no record as to the first white men who visited the county. The French explorers on their voyage down the Illinois River must have come close by, but it is doubtful whether they journeyed far inland. The first white settlement is believed to have been made about 1816 in the southern part of the county. In the original boundaries there were included a small part of Mason, parts of Christian, McLean, Woodford, Putnam, and all of Logan, Tazewell, Menard, and Cass. Eventually the above named sections were cut off to form new counties and the boundaries of Sangamon established as they are at the present time. In November of 1860 the people of the county voted to adopt township organization and twenty-two such political divisions were made. In 1875, Illiopolis Township being considered too large, the western section was taken to form Wheatfield, now Lanesville Township. At the present time there are twenty-seven townships, Illiopolis forming the eastern wing, and, because of its shape, nicknamed by the early settlers, the "coon's tail." (From the Centennial History of Illiopolis 1956) For additional information and links see: "The Sangamo" ...what is it? Internet Horology Club 185 Illinois Research.

Sangamo Electric Company: Sangamo Electric Company was started in buildings rented from the Illinois Watch Company, who’s President, Jacob Bunn Sr., was father to Jacob Bunn Jr., President of Sangamo. Research has shown that this close proximity was a great help to Sangamo in the beginning, as Illinois Watch Company resources were "borrowed" by Sangamo to help start up meter production. In fact the Sangamo oval logo was created by Grandville Kindred, the head engraver of the Illinois Watch Company at the time. He suggested to Robert Lanphier that the letters in the name Sangamo be given a "wiggle" to make them look as if lightning had hit them, since Sangamo was the manufacturer electrical devices. He then skillfully sketched the design which was immediately approved and adopted. One could easily say that without the strong influence of the Illinois Watch Company, the Sangamo Electric Clock would have never been made. The availability of highly trained craftsmen in the same complex, with an extensive background in the manufacturing of fine timepieces, was surely a great help in the development of these outstanding clocks. Not only did the watch company custom build the first platforms for the experimental movements, but later the high grade 11-jewel, 16-Size Illinois balance platforms were a key selling feature of the clock. In fact, Sangamo was so eager to show off the Illinois escapement in their clocks, that they offered an optional dial where the platform could be seen at work through a viewing window. These "visible escapement" dials were only offered on 11-jewel Illinois escapement clocks, which were considered their top of the line models. For additional information see: History of Sangamo Electric Clocks.


 
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I have a 23j Model 9 #2,798,014 true bridge model. It has what appears to be a gold train. I am not sure about diamond end stones. The watch is in a bank vault downtown.
 
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Hi Ethan, thank you for your post. I am just starting to compile this Sangamo Special Model 9 database. The posts you see from 1-14 will be filled with pictures to show the different SS variants. I just started this evening and it will take a short time to complete.

As for your watch, I will post your information to the database.

COLOR: The color is in reference to the enamel markings on the movement (gold, red, black, other?).

DIAMOND: The balance cap jewel will either be a diamond end stone (facets) or rounded with a flat top - not a diamond.

Any other characteristics about your watch would be appreciated as this will be updated and modified as new information is gathered. That goes for other members or soon to be members of IHC185! Thank you.
 
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I have 2868592 23j false bridge gold inland script checkerard dmk sapphire end stone screws up on balance cap.
 
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Dan, I've added to the database. When you get a chance post a picture. Thank you.
 
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Also my SS was made in the first run of false bridge movements run 21.
In the information that is posted above it states that they are marked jeweled barrel on the center bridge. Mine is not it is marked on the barrel bidge just as the true bridge model 9's were i will post pictures tomorrow to illistrate. Thanks for adding my prized watch you guys i plan on getting a few more model 9's i want a 19j next.

Thanks,
Dan
 
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Great Dan. Look forward to seeing it.
 
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Carlos, You may add my SS 23j #2970128, seems to be from run 26 (500) of 1916. The list is growing for these beautiful. No pictures available, no camera and too old to learn!


BJ Williamson
 
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Okay! I'll add it.
 
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Picture of Patrick Wallin
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Carlos, This is great. Thanks for posting it.
 
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Greetings all...my first post in a few years as I've recently begun collecting again, this time with a slightly different focus...the 19J SS shown above (number 2917547) with the false bridge (only 200 ever produced) was recently bought by me and I'm delighted to see it pictured here. I don't see any 19J SS anywhere on the internet now, let alone one with a false bridge. I was also fortunate to buy a Bunn Special 23J 60hr type II (only 500-600 made) at a cheap price...I couldn't be more pleased!
Dennis
 
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Not to mention a Bunn Special 21J fishscale finish!
 
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Dennis, sounds like a nice collection!
 
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Carlos,

Are you still actively adding Sangamo Specials to your lists??
 
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Hi Donald, I'm still researching when I get the time. Please forward any Model 9's you run into. Thank you.
 
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Model 9 Serial Numbers

Sangamo Special 2,575,652
Sangamo Special 2,575,980
Sangamo Special 2,615,243
Sangamo Special 2,615,633
Sangamo Special 2,615,667
Sangamo Special 2,728,559
Sangamo Special 2,790,594
Sangamo Special 2,917,566
Sangamo Special 2,968,450
Sangamo Special 2,970,072
Sangamo Special 2,970,310
Sangamo Special 2,977,234
Sangamo Special 3,251,285
 
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Any chance you can forward a picture of the movement. There are unique characteristics on each of these serial numbers. Thanks.
 
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all of them or any one in particular??
 
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Serial # Year Size Jewels Pos Case Set Case Notes
2,575,652 1913 16 21 6 OF LS 14K WGF
2,575,980 1913 16 23 6 OF LS 20 Year
2,615,234 1914 16 19 6 OF LS 25 yr
2,615,243 1914 16 19 6 OF LS 14K
2,615,633 1914 16 21 6 OF LS
2,615,667 1914 16 21 6 OF LS 20yr
2,658,927 1915 16 21 6 HC LS 14K
2,658,977 1915 16 23 6 HC LS
2,728,559 1915 16 21 6 OF LS 14K WGF
2,790,123 1915 16 19 6 OF LS 25 Year
2,790,594 1915 16 21 6 OF LS GF
2,790,994 1915 16 21 6 OF LS
2,917,469 1916 16 19 6 OF LS 14K
2,917,566 1916 16 19 6 OF LS
2,968,450 1916 16 21 6 OF LS 10K RG
2,970,072 1918 16 23 6 OF LS 20 Year
2,970,310 1916 16 23 6 OF LS
2,970,450 1916 16 23 6 OF LS 10K GF
2,977,234 1916 16 23 6 HC LS 14K
3,251,285 1918 16 21 6 OF LS 14K GF
3,285,149 1918 16 23 6 OF LS 14K GF
3,524,449 1919 16 23 6 OF LS 14K GF
4,556,719 1925 17 23 6 OF LS 14K GF
4,736,163 1925 17 23 6 OF LS 14K GGF
4,736,835 1925 17 23 6 OF LS 14K GF
4,736,889 1926 17 23 6 OF LS 14K WGF
4,758,898 1925 17 23 6 OF LS 14K GF
4,760,485 1925 17 23 6 OF LS 14K RGF
 
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