Andrea,

First of all I am really sorry the numbers did not match. The difference in the lettering inlay is what got me suspecting something was up.

After looking in the Meggers Illinois book I found a picture of a movement that had the same style of lettering as yours. The discription is below and looks like it would match yours. It also has a barrel bridge that is of the same configuration as the Bunn Special. It was not marked Safety pinion but may have been made after they dropped that from the movement. I would have scanned the photo as well but it was of poor quality and would not have been ledgible. The picture is Item #2 on page 97 if someone cares to comment on my guess if they have the book.

Steve

Andrea,

I went ahead and scanned it anyway....maybe you get the gist of it. I would have guessed it came from a 17 jewell since so many were made.

Steve

Steve,
thank you very much for your infos.
Here is one,but all the ones i have seen they do not have marked "safety pinion"..I have to check again all teh serial numbers ,the jewerly man wa on rush and just told me the last four digits numbers..

Andrea

and here another one..tomorrow i will get all the serial numbers so we finally will be ableexactly to tell which movement the barrel bridge belongs
Andrea

and this one looks like...I will have the complete serial numbers today..
Andrea

Andrea,

That one is a Model 6 grade 64 17 jewel.

Steve

Steve,

the serial number is 1,373,365..yes grade 64..made in the year 1897 from a run of 200.From serial numbers 1,373,301 to 1,373,500.
Finally resolved the "mistery"..

Andrea

Steve/Tom,

Thank you very much for all your help and having shared your toughts and opinions with me.I did really appreciate it.
It is still a nice piece and a very good runner.
Grazie,
Andrea

Anyone have an idea where this Illinois might fall into the world of Illinois pocket watches.

The serial number I think would place it in a run of A. Lincoln 18s watches, it has the same markings on the movement as a Lincoln but is marked Special.

Tom

TOM,
IF THE SERIAL NUMBERS UNDER THE BRIDGE MATCH THE SERIAL NUMBERS ON THE MOVEMENT I THINK YOU HAVE ONE OF THE KIND WATCH!YOUR WATCH IS FROM THE RUN 2,060,701-2,061,000 MADE IN 1908.MADE OF THIS MODEL 10,220 OF RUNS 34 BETWEEN 1907 AND 1913.MOST OF THEM MARKED "A.LINCOLN",SOME "PENSYLVANIA SPECIAL" AND VERY A FEW WITH PRIVATE LABEL.I NEVER SEEN MARKED LIKE YOUR,IAM SURE OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS FORUM CAN HELP MORE THEN ME.
ANDREA

Tom,

Have you checked the numbers under the barrel bridge yet. Everthing I have found says A. Lincoln but that does not mean it is necessarily.

Steve

Thanks for the replies everyone, I have yet to get the watch. As soon as I do I will check the numbers & see if they match. With the small knowledge I have about these things I had not been able to find another one like it.

It has a Illinois Watch Co. dial but as Lindell mentioned those can be changed so if all the numbers match I may still never know if it was a private label or what, again that is only based on what I know, which would almost fill a thimble.

Hopefully I will have it in a day or two.

Tom,
It looks like a winner to my even less trained eye and knowledge. But tell you what, if you want, just tell the seller to send it directly to me, and I will give you what you paid plus $25.00 sight unseen, I'll gamble on it.
What you say, just kidding, unless you do like the offer.
Bill

Well Bill, that depends on how high can I go with what I tell you I spent?

If it all matches up I might have to keep this one for a while, it might not be worth anymore than any other watch but it would be kind of neat to say you have the only one like it. With my luck, after I get it 1000 ones just like it will show up on ebay.

The seller I bought it from appears to deal mostly in what I call knick-knack stuff & women's jewelery, so they don't appear to do to many watches.

Tom

I have a watch very similar to the one posted on February 15, 2009, s/n 1634243. The focus of the responses seemed to be on finding out where the "swapped" plate had come from (which it seems you were all successful in doing, congrats) but mine is complete and I am having trouble finding others like it, beyond this. Can you tell me what, if anything, you found out about the main movement and its circular rose/copper inlay. My s/n is 1597035. I think it's from 1902 or so. It was purchased (perhaps used) in Canada by my great grandfather in approx 1905-1907. Here is a link to my forum question/pics:
https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/f...1029912/m/6813979657

Hi Andrea, I have just joined to add a note to your thread. I have an identical movement down to the same detailing and damanskeening. It is in a heavy flip out case marked with a Patented Trade mark logo of a crescent and a small star and 364b marked inside the case. it has a metal champagne dial and has the serial number 2312591. It is the same in every detail as your one. It is one of my favourite Bunns to carry. I also have 4 60 hour Bunn specials one a canadian railway which is also nice. So even though my serial number is much higher it looks identical. I am trying to learn more about them. Cheers Terry