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Illinois GETTY Grade 187 Progression of Markings Data Base.

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April 05, 2014, 13:44
Tony Dukes
Illinois GETTY Grade 187 Progression of Markings Data Base.
My 187

April 05, 2014, 13:45
Tony Dukes
Close up of 187 info

April 05, 2014, 15:00
David Hulme
Metinks that your second photo is a mirror image???

Not that it really matters - apart from the engravings under the balance wheel, everything else in your first photo appears to be very legible.

April 05, 2014, 15:52
Tony Dukes
I was trying to show that my 187 was engraved under the balance wheel-Illinois Watch Co.--Springfield.
July 27, 2015, 20:11
Eugene Buffard
I bought this Ariston a while back it is in the same block as the other Ariston that I have noted in the data base. 1572852

July 27, 2015, 20:14
Eugene Buffard
Here is a better picture of the markings.

17 Ruby Jewel Double Roller, Adjusted 5 Position,


August 01, 2015, 21:44
Eugene Buffard
Very unusually this Grade 187 is marked like No other that has been seen or recorded before. The others are marked 5 or 6 position.

This one is marked Positions only. I tried to win auction. Hopefully some one on this site won it.

[See discussion here: "Grade 187 New Variant" in our "Avoiding the PITFALLS of On-Line Trading!"™]

Recent image of new variant # 2395451

October 26, 2015, 22:20
Eugene Buffard
1569909 Hunter 6 position

November 12, 2015, 12:47
Terry L. Jones
Ever see a Private label 187? I have ser # 1,455,702- " Archie Testmeyer- Milwaukee, WI" on pillar plate under balance.
Sorry photos too big to come thru.

Any one else see one like this?

Terry Jones
November 13, 2015, 12:11
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December 11, 2016, 20:54
Eugene Buffard
He is a photo of Terry Jones watch.

January 06, 2017, 20:58
Peter Kaszubski
you can add another 187 to the database
serial # 2395310
January 09, 2017, 09:22
Eugene Buffard
Serial # 2395406 looks like it should match up with variant 7. Except that the (E) in Temperature does not match up with the word Adjusted. Instead of making a new Variant. I'm going to call it a

Variant 7

January 27, 2019, 22:00
Eugene Buffard
Here is a new 6 position marked 187.
Serial # 1548719

I can’t post a photo of it. It’s is on fleebay.
January 28, 2019, 09:56
Douglas D. Weaver
Here is one...

It is serial 1548834 and 5 positions.

November 28, 2019, 13:20
Eugene Buffard
A new variety has turned up.
The new variant is marked only 17 jewel. Compared to Ruby Jeweled. # 1370858.
November 28, 2019, 22:13
Bila Wirriganwalters
Have you a picture of it Eugene?

November 28, 2019, 23:46
Gene Piano
Picture 1 Geno

November 28, 2019, 23:47
Gene Piano
Picture 2 Geno

March 20, 2020, 20:30
Eugene Buffard
1370882 looks just like the one above. Marked only 17 Jewel. NOT 17 Ruby Jewels