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Hamilton Veritemps

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August 30, 2004, 06:39
George Davis
Hamilton Veritemps
Lindell,
Here are pics of Veritemps #419,059 you asked for sorry it took so long [scanner died]. Finished 1/28/07, sold to H.W.Wheeler Co. 1/29/07. Not many of these have turned up ~ 18s marked VERITEMPS dial & movement.

Veritemps

August 30, 2004, 06:40
George Davis
Movement

Veritemps movement

August 30, 2004, 09:17
Ed Ueberall
George,
That's a beautiful, as well as very scarce Hamilton. We have S/N 419042 recorded as being marked "Special", with tu-tone damaskeening and S/N 419089, recorded as a "941 Extra" in our database, with no special damaskeen noted, so this run of 100 may have been reserved for custom marked and/or damaskeened movements. Yours uses the same damaskeen pattern that was used by Hamilton on most of the 16 size Hayden W. Wheeler special bridge movements. The third run of those movements (275,XXX) were being completed at the same time as your movement.
I know of a few non-HWW 16 size, but are there any other 18 size movements that also used this "wavy line" pattern?


Ed Ueberall
IHC Member 34
The Escapement
August 31, 2004, 04:35
George Davis
Ed,
Roy e. showed a 944 #522,109 on pg. 26 of his 1980 price indicator with regular Ham. marking-that's only other 18s besides the HWW VERITEMPS 940 & 941 I've seen.
George.
September 12, 2004, 13:12
R. J. Lucke
George / Ed,

Additional watches do exist with the "Wheeler" damaskeening pattern including serial number 180,612 which has standard Hamilton markings. I have also seen others including a 940 marked something like Made Especially for - Hayden W. Wheeler, Maiden Lane"

Rhett


Rhett Lucke

September 12, 2004, 13:17
R. J. Lucke
Also some non HWW 16's have the same pattern including a 975 with private label markings (Pirtle - sp?).


Rhett Lucke