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Before and After 23J Canadian Pacific Waltham...

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March 14, 2004, 06:27
Bernhard Schmidt
Before and After 23J Canadian Pacific Waltham...
BEFORE Frown

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före

March 14, 2004, 06:32
Bernhard Schmidt
Smile

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eftertvl2

March 14, 2004, 06:34
Bernhard Schmidt
Smile

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efter närverk

March 14, 2004, 06:35
Bernhard Schmidt
Smile

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efter bak

March 14, 2004, 06:39
Bernhard Schmidt
Thank you Lindell for the really beautiful case.
The dial is not that good but, it´s the right one.

Bernhard "the swede"
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March 14, 2004, 09:31
Ted Steuernagel
Bernhard, Great looking watch
March 14, 2004, 10:59
Bernhard Schmidt
.....thank´s Ted! Can we se something from your collection, you told me about a coin silver beauty?

Bernhard "the swede"
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March 14, 2004, 12:00
Ted Steuernagel
Coin silver #1 coin Elgin 15 jewels

Elgin, Coin silver

March 14, 2004, 12:04
Ted Steuernagel
movement

movement

March 14, 2004, 12:08
Ted Steuernagel
Bernhard this is a nice heavy one

Cion silver

March 14, 2004, 13:15
Kevin Pestor
Nice watch Ted, what is the model number and year it was made, i have a similar movement but my balance wheel does not seem to be centred like yours.i have 2 coin siver cases 1 16 sz and 1 18 sz swingout.
Pretty cool. Cool Cool Cool

Kevin "Veritas" West
IHC Member 261
Chapter 111,Ottawa
NAWCC Member 158976,
Nepean, Canada
March 14, 2004, 14:02
Lindell V. Riddle
Bernhard,

What a great combination.

Personally I excuse the dial damage as hazards of the line of work the watch was in. Glad the case worked out well for you. For those unfamiliar, that particular case is a marked Waltham and it is the "Locomotive Model" in honor of the engraved back. The black areas on either side of the pendant are inlaid enamel which adds greatly to its desirability. I found that outstanding case just recently at an NAWCC Mart and bought it immediately.

Your watch is now a winner Bernhard, congratulations!

Lindell

Wink
March 14, 2004, 16:31
Kevin Pestor
Nice watch Bernhard looks very good after the dial and case change, a nice railway man,s working watch.

Kevin "Veritas" West
IHC Member 261
Chapter 111,Ottawa
NAWCC Member 158976,
Nepean, Canada
March 18, 2004, 15:01
Mark Cross
This case is amazing! Lindell and I were just talking about this, and he was telling me about the enameling. Is there anyway you could post some more detailed photos of that enameling? This is JUST beautiful!!! Regards. Mark

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March 18, 2004, 17:42
Bernhard Schmidt
...ofcourse, I do that tomorrow and yes, it´s lovely, I look at it before I go to bed every night. Wink
Goodnight

Bernhard "the swede"
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March 19, 2004, 00:13
Jerry Treiman
Indeed that is a lovely combination on the CPR watch. However, the movement may be rather early for the combination. That movement dates from around 1911. "Bulldog" cases (those without a neck to the pendant) did not start to appear until the '20s and that specific case appears in advertisements from the early '30s. I find that dial is not in my 1924 Waltham catalog but does appear in my 1930 catalog (designated as a "Canadian" dial).
March 19, 2004, 03:37
Bernhard Schmidt
....yes Jerry, I have had those thougts about the case because the locomotiv looks a bit new. But the dial I have not.
What do you think a 1911, CPR looked like.
Anyway, I really love this one.

Bernhard "the swede"
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March 19, 2004, 14:46
Mark Cross
Agreed, on paper and discussing period correct, they're from different production times, but without knowing all that, these two just sing in this combination. (I'm being lyrical on a Friday afternoon (grins)). You're a VERY fortunate man, Bernhard. Don't ever let that one get away from you! High regards. Mark

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March 19, 2004, 15:56
Lindell V. Riddle
Jerry is right!

The movement pre-dates the case by nearly two decades. However the case represents what would have been a fitting replacement for a by then worn out case. Bernhard sure has a great looking combination any way you slice it.

Below the patent date on the "Waltham Locomotive Case" we sent over to house Bernhard's "CPR" Movement...


March 19, 2004, 16:10
Lindell V. Riddle

Below, image showing the inlaid enameling close-up...


March 19, 2004, 17:37
Bernhard Schmidt
...and another one.

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closeup

March 20, 2004, 02:49
Jerry Treiman
Bernhard, you ask what a 1911 CPR might have looked like? The only other example I can put my hands on was illustrated in Ehrhardt's 1978 "Price Indicator" where he showed a similar movement with this dial.