I have two 16s hunter cased, grade 104's that, according to the Hampden database, are both part of a variation of 200. This variation is supposed to be marked 104, adjusted to 5 positions, double roller, tutone hunter cased watches.

One of my two watches is s/n 2075074 and is an "unmarked" 104, a single roller with no mark and is marked "adjusted." The second of these two watches is s/n 2075169 and is "marked" 104, double roller and is so marked, and is marked "adjusted to 5 positions." Both are tutone, hunter movements.

Are these really to be considered as part of a single variation? Or is this simply a hole in the database that has been undiscovered? Seems that there is enough differences between these two watches to characterize another variation.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.

Michael,

My first impression is you have one each of two different variants, or perhaps one is a "sub-variant" of the other.

Here are excellent sources for information you have probably consulted already:

https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/f...9104152/m/7871014903

https://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/f...9104152/m/7431017672

Be sure to download Robert's PDF File which might help further in your identification.

Sorting out things like this can be tricky.

Don

Donald, thanks for your reply. The two links you gave me both lead to a sign up page for this organization of which I'm already a member. If you meant me to be directed somewhere else on the board, let me know.