As discussed in an earlier thread, many of us think it would be useful to have a Hampden dedicated research forum. What do you all think about this? Is there enough interest here to sustain such a thing?

I've recently gotten into Hampdens and I'm always interested in learning more about them. If you're a Hampden fan please let us know what watches you have, which ones you like and why, and if you also want to have a dedicated forum for discussing and researching them.

I have a 1920 Hampden 105 model 5 and a 1904 Hampden Wm. McKinley model 4 21j. I'm currently looking for a nice New or Special Railway example, preferably with a Montgomery dial.

Chris,
I read the thread about starting a Hampden forum and I think it is a good idea, and will be well received by the members of IHC185.
I have only two Hampdens at this time, but you never know!

Chris,I too would be happy to have some kind of Hampden sub or research forum, I think probably some of the others on here would too.I have the following Hampden watches in my small collection, unfortunately I still can't picture them here, though: 18sizes- 23J OF Special Railway,21J 2-tone Special Railway,17J 2-tone Sp'l Railway, 17J New Railway,21J John Hancock, 15J Dueber Watch Co.,all open face.16 sizes-21J New Railway,21J No. 105 5th model,21J Wm. McKinley mod. 5,19J Railway mod. 5,No. 108 17J mod. 5, 15J hunting No. 99 , 17J 4th model Dueber Watch co., and a 12size 15J lever-set Gen'l Stark bridge model 4 with the original Dueber case paper in the back.I hope to someday get a No. 104, and a 5th model 23J Special Railway, however those 2 I could never afford now, but it's nice to dream, right?I'd also like to get an 18s 21J Dueber Watch Co., which is quite common and more affordable...Ted.

Your "small collection?" I laughed. That's what, 14 examples?

There's a fair amount of Hampden information to be found, much of it right here, but there's no single place that I'm aware of that a collector can bring all the pieces together.

From this forum:


Scarce and not so scarce 16 size 21 jewel Hampdens

Early 1900's Hampden & Waltham Wristwatches

16 size hi grade bargains still available

One of the last Hampden 18 size Special Railways

Ball Hampden Ad

Hampden advertisement

If you collect Hampden (match holder)

Hampden Private Label

Scarce 23j 16 size Hampdens

Show us your Hampdens

HAMPDEN RELATED ITEMS (case opener)

Most popular 16s RR watch (hampden confused with hamilton)

Some of these have a lot of valuable information in some of them. Others are interesting images or small tidbits of data. Those are from the first few pages of results from a search for Hampden. There are probably at least that many more useful or interesting Hampden related threads already on the board.

Theo says he isn't a "porch dog" when it comes to Hampdens, he can run with the big dogs. I might be considered a "porch puppy" since I only have about 10 Hampdens.

Which ten do you have, Claude?

Count me in

A few more Hampdens from another porch puppy...
Mike
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Hampden, Railway, 16s, RR Grade, Model 5, LS, OF, adjusted 5 positions, 19j, double roller, Sn 3317578.

Hampden, Wm. McKinley, RR Grade, 16s, LS, 21 jewels, adjusted, sn 1588367.

Hampden, 12s, 15 jewels, model 304, sn 2864871.

Hampden, 18s, Model 2, Signed: John C. Dueber, Special, adjusted, 17 jewels, sn 950520.

Hampden, 18s, RR Grade, LS, OF, Model 3, 21 jewels, DR, adjusted 5 positions, sn 3154924.

Hampden, Lafayette, 18s, LS, Model 2, sn 304200.

Hampden, Diadem, 3/0s, 15J, sn 2266003.

Hampden, 18s, PS, 17 jewels, sn 2523108.

Hampden, 18s, LS, 2-tone, Railway Special, 23 jewels, adjusted, sn 1500729.

Hampden 18s, Hampden Watch Co., (symbol only) Menlo Park, 17 jwels, adjusted, Sn 1285113.

2 6s hunters
16s OF WM McKinley PS 17j adj
16s HC 109 D in split flag LS 15j adj
16s HC Deuber Watch Co LS 17j adj
16s OF Railway LS 19j adj5p
18s OF grade 64 PS 17j
18s OF John Hancock LS 21j adj
18s OF NA Railway LS 21j adj
18s OF New Railway LS 23j adj5p

I am selling some of the "duplicates"
S/N c.a. type size #j
3481972 1918 10k "Molly Stark" mod. 0 7
2089889 1905 GF HC "Molly Stark" 3 7
2447815 1908 GF "Molly Stark" 3 7
3092912 1915 series3, GF HC 3 15
502748 1887 series I, Ni DMK 6 15
1473268 1900 series I, Ni DMK HC 6 15
1597393 1901 Gr.213 VG Ni Dmk 6 15
1326910 1899 Gen'l Stark NiDmk. 12 15
2134802 1905 Gen'l Stark Ni Dmk. 12 15
2205472 1906 Gen'l Stark Ni Dmk. 12 15
2251897 1906 Lex. Wtch Co dbl sgnd 12 15
3337179 1918 "700" Model Ni DMK 12 15
1515621 1901 Deuber Grand HC Mvmt. 12 17a
1732498 1902 Deuber Grand Mvmt. 12 17
1735256 1902 Deuber Grand Mvmt. 12 17
488597 1886 Gilded 16 7
3220062 1916 V Clean mdl 5 #7 mvt. 16 7
8232 1940-50 Hampden des. Mvt Pkt. 16 15
16463 1940-50 Hampden des. Mvt Pkt. 16 15
1762017 1902 Ni Dmk OK 16 15
2145416 1905 Series V Bridge Ni Dmk 16 15
2460051 1908 Series V Bridge Ni Dmk 16 15
2595966 1909 Gld Scr. Ni Dmk #109 16 15
2716105 1911 2-tone Mvt. Gr.440 16 15
2716457 1911 2-tone Mvt. Gr.440 16 15
3057548 1915 2-tone Mvt. Special ed. 16 15
3157865 1916 Mdl 109 good dial 16 15
3314051 1917 Mdl 109 good dial 16 15
3458872 1918 Mdl 109 good dial 16 15
3506713 1919 Mdl 109 bad dial-staff? 16 15
3596054 1919 Mdl 109 good dial 16 15
3596929 1919 Mdl 109 good dial 16 15
3644574 1919 Marked #109 16 15
1-41 84623 1941 Russ Mil. Dial 16 15
4-55-8516 1940-50 Russ Mvt Pkt. 16 15
4-67-1888 1940-50 Russ Mvt Pkt. 16 15
File CC 1937 Russ des. Mil. Dial 16 15
File CC 1956 Russ des. w/dble crown 16 15
807497 1891 Deuber W. Co 16 17
3632025 1921 Base Metal silver 16 17
3665717 1920 OF Mvt in HC????? 16 17
3647440 1917 Deuber "Chronometer" 16 21
351923 1919 Mdl 108 16 17
1694671 1902 Wm McKinley 16 17
1986670 1904 Wm McKinley 16 17
1986670 1904 Ex Fancy Ni Dmk Mvt 16 17
2077450 1905 Wm McKinley 16 17
2272066 1906 Wm McKinley 16 17
2771402 1912 pvt lbl mdl Brom.&Greg 16 17
2805190 1912 Wm McKinley 16 17
2807086 1912 #600 Mdl 4 Brg. Mvt. 16 17
3196676 1916 Wm McKinley 16 17
3388955 1918 Mdl 108 16 17
3405522 1918 Wm McKinley 16 17
3417618 1918 "No. 98" 16 17
3541029 1919 Wm McKinley 16 17
3588291 1919 Gold DecDial WmMcKinley 16 17
3170377 1916 "Railway"RR. mdl5HngBBl 16 19
2142643 1905 Mdl#105 16 21
2800850 1912 Mdl#105 16 21
2802000 1912 Mdl#105 Monty Dial 16 21
3114567 1916 Wm Mckinley 16 21
41960 1872 Rare "John Hancock" 18 7
172677 1880 Coin Si HC Gld mvmt 18 7
172748 1880 Gild Mvt., 3 Hinge Cse 18 7
329299 1884 Gild Mvt., Stag Case 18 7
357474 1885 24hr Pvt."H.S.Hyde" 18 7
918410 1894 Gilded Mvt 18 7
890214 1890 "Gladiator" VG Rare! 18 9
54579 1874 Hampden Dial,Pvt Lbl 18 11
193467 1881 Hayward 18 11
253755 1883 Poss Restorable ni Dmk 18 11
272155 1883 VG Cond Ni Dmk 18 11
340089 1884 Ni Dmk Mvt 18 11
472527 1886 Gr 31, VG Cond. 18 11
1917250 1905 Ni Dmk Needs MSbar 18 11
37180 1872 "Chester Woolworth" 18 15
57492 1877 Ni Dmk Mvt "J.C.PERRY" 18 15
74076 1878 Ni Dmk Mvt 18 15
87827 1878 "Hayward" Coin Si. 18 15
93937 1878 LakesidewHair fob+wind 18 15
146781 1881 "Woolworth" NOS Mvt. 18 15
168590 1881 Deub Case, Prvt. Label 18 15
192545 1881 Lafayette Ni Dmk. Model 18 15
335316 1884 Ni Dmk Mdl II Mvt 18 15
380757 1885 Springfield Mvt. Minty 18 15
392917 1885 "Garwood" Sgnd Mvt. 18 15
433259 1886 Gilt Mvt Papered case 18 15
451775 1886 Ni Dmk Teskes Reg. 18 15
473004 1884 spgfld "Lawrence" mdl. 18 15
531476 1888 Gilt Mvt good dial 18 15
705553 1889 15 J Mdl 3 NiDmk 18 15
714168 1889 Deuber Wtch Co. Dial 18 15
870843 1893 Ni Dmk Pat. Reg. 18 15
928356 1894 "Girard" Pvt Lblunused? 18 15
1102038 1897 Ni Dmk "Deuber W.Co. 18 15
1259578 1899 Ni Dmk "Deuber W.Co. 18 15
1403015 1900 DeuberW.Co.Mvt.Hmp.Dial 18 15
1409462 1900 Vg Ni Dmk Mvt. 18 15
1641591 1901 Ni Dmk,Fancy Dial Gf 18 15
1670127 1901 STANTONSOLON Dial 18 15
2357188 1907 Deuber Grand 18 17
115390 1879 "Railway" Signed 18 15
117121 1879 "Woolworth" Gilded Mvt. 18 15
159231 1880 "Woolworth" in SPC case 18 15
159609 1880 "Woolworth" Gilded Mvt. 18 15
195436 1881 Daniel T. Smith Salem 18 15
371281 1885 "F.J.Barrett, Lenox MA" 18 15
897280 1893 Dber W.CoMvt.Trick Case 18 15
414844 1886 Triple hinged Gf case 18 17
669587 1889 Deuber Grand RR Grade 18 17
710001 1889 John C. Deuber SPECIAL 18 17
751803 1890 Pvt Rovelstadt Bros. 18 17
768318 1898 Special Railoway 2 Tone 18 17
860182 1892 "New Railway" 18 17
982120 1896 "Special Railway" 18 17
1019889 1897 Gr 81, adjusted RR mvt. 18 17
1052145 1898 3-Ball RR Grade 18 17
1184976 1898 RR Grade 18 17
1253211 1898 "Menlo Park" 18 17
1676427 1903 Mdl 3 Adj Ni Dmk. 18 17
1708308 1903 Deuber Grand 18 17
2640765 1909 Deuber Grand Gf Ni Dmk 18 17
3152812 1916 Gr 64 Ni Dmk Mvt. 18 17
1209769 1898 Special Railway 2-tone 18 21
1280324 1899 John Hancock Ni DMK 18 21
1751186 1902 The Deuber W.Co. RR 18 21
1809769 1898 "Special Railway" 2-tne 18 21
2275213 1906 John Hancock Ni DMK 18 21
2582154 1909 Spcl.Railway 2 tone 18 21
2660462 1910 Deuber Watch Co. 18 21
2663853 1910 Deuber Watch Co. 18 21
1231637 1898 "Special Railway" 2-tne 18 23

I'm interested in those Special Railway 21j examples...

Just missed this one today but I have some other Hampdens closing tomorrow;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...=1&item=150412656727

I didn't realize that was you. I actually emailed you about that specific watch. Are you going to list the other New Railway examples on eBay as well? If so, I'll keep my eyes peeled...

I forgot to list another Hampden I have.It's a 16S OF 17J 4th model W.J. Johnston grade, the one with fish-scale damaskeening and "Hampden" signed in fancy script on the barrel bridge.These are really cool watches, there's quite a long thread on here about them.I'd like to get an 18s version sometime, to go along with this one....Ted.

I want in and will try to get more pictures of my not so vast collection. Dave Abbe has been a wonderful help to me and I appreciate that.

Here's the Wm. McKinley I bought recently. This one is going back, though. It has a screw missing on one of the jewel settings and one of the case screws is missing too (the one in the shot is a replacement that's too small.) Overall it's in quite a bit rougher shape than expected. Luckily the 105 I also purchased recently is in much better shape. Pictures of that one forthcoming...

I'm all for a Hampden forum. Include also Kirovsky factory Russia.I remember some years ago helping Russian emigre' watchmaker identify a pocket watch. When I showed him a Hampden 16 size No. 108 he exclaimed: "Da! Kirovsky"!

I would definately be interested!

My 105 arrived today. Pictures shortly...

Just got this No. 310 in. Case seems original. Crazy cheap on E-bay. What do you guys think about the dial? Original?

Heads up. There's an interesting 3-Ball Hampden private label (A N Anderson Minneapolis) up on eBay right now...

Images of my new 105:

Nice 105 Chris! I see what you mean about that dial, The one on yours came off a lower grade for sure.But there are dials around if you want to switch it.If I had an extra, I would send it to you, right now I only have one with chips and hairlines.The 105 I have, SN 3394408, is the same except the "adjusted five positions" is marked differently, but in the same spot.Mine if you turn it to the light at different angles,and look at the striped damaskeening, the number of stripes changes.It looks like there are lines between the lines that you don't see at first.Really a cool effect, I've never seen that on any other watch.These are a nice railroad watch!.....Ted.

It's my impression that it's the wrong dial too. I have yet to see any solid evidence that Hampden put single sunk dials on these. I already purchased a replacement:



This is the classic Hampden double sunk with fancy arabic numerals. I think it'll look a lot more appropriate on the watch.

Chris, If you would like to keep that McKinley I have the screws you need from a parts watch I have.

Too late. I sold it and used the money to buy a Waltham Crescent St. Thanks for the offer, though!

I have a humble Hampden 16s Champion. I'm interested.

I like that dial a lot. There's something to be said for the monochrome approach. I like the fat curls on the 5, 3 and 2s.

Have this one coming from the E-place. Very little "good" info just this poor picture. Paid parts movement price so I did OK either way. I think it is a 15j 18s Dueber Watch Co grade. Not sure about the year. Serial listed is 3285754. Will find out when I receive it I guess.

Hi Mike, looks like a really nice original Montgomery dial and hands on that one, if you bought it as a parts watch, you got a steal!Also, that 310 is a nice looking movement, kind of a strange looking,although original , Roman dial.They made some pretty nice 12 sizes.Many different metal dials like that came out around that time.Regards, Ted B.

Wayne, those Champions were pretty popular, and yours looks nice.I have a 16s Champion, I bought it for the Dueber YGF case it was in.When I got it, I wasn't planning to do anything with it, but changed my mind because the movement, dial and hands are so nice, it would be a shame not to keep it!They'll run forever if treated right!

I would love to see a Hampden group/forum. I am new to collecting Hampdens but hope to build a nice collection over the next few years. This forum would be a great help.

John Grennan III

Received the 18s 15j Hampden today. For $64 and some change I am happy with it. Seller said it has been sitting for 30+ years in a drawer. Gave it a little wind and a shake and it took right off. Case is a maked Defiance Base Metal. Has a nice butler back will very little wear. It is a 15j. stem set.