Internet Horology Club 185
Balloon Chuck

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December 03, 2007, 10:30
Bob Kerr
Balloon Chuck
Can someone out there tell me how & why you would use these tools. I have two of them that came with some late collets. I understand that the balance does not have to be taken apart, time saver?

But, if I am looking at this correctly only the end of the balance staff pivot is exposed beyond the shield. Is it just for rounding or flatening the staff end?
So far I have not seen a reference in any book as to how they are used.

Thanks
December 03, 2007, 18:09
Scott Cerullo
Bob,

Balloon chucks are very useful for polishing pivots. I wouldn't use them for attemting to straighten a pivot.

Make sure they are in good shape before using.

I think they can be found in the Goodrich book as well as Perkins.

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December 04, 2007, 07:31
Bob Kerr
The ones you posted are very close to the ones I have. I guess I'll have to practice with these.

Today I remove the roller table and hairspring and polish free hand. I have had good luck so far.

My watch mentor instructed to put the staff and balance wheel back in the movement after staffing or polishing and test the freedom in all positions. If it checks out okay then mount the roller table and hairspring.

Thinking about it futher, if one is to test the freedom the hairspring and roller table would be in the way? Maybe these chucks will go up for sale.

Thanks for the post!
December 04, 2007, 18:17
Scott Cerullo
Bob,
You could always test without the pallet in. I would hang on to the chucks. You might change you mind someday.
Scott


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December 04, 2007, 23:12
David Abbe
In the last 200 or so watches, I have used a Balloon chuck 4 or 5 times to polish a pivot that is slightly damaged by a cracked or broken jewel. Risking the Balance wheel assembly by removing the Hairspring and the roller(s) is only a "last resort" if the Beat Timing is uncorrectibly bad (>10 Msec RR, 30 mSec others) making it clear everything is messed up.
Keep those Balloon chucks. They work quickly and safely for pivot polishing.
December 06, 2007, 07:17
Bob Kerr
Thanks Guys, I'll take your advice and hold on to them.

Wink
July 01, 2015, 13:47
Dave Rossi
Hello All,
I'm a newbie here and would like to ask if anyone could please explain to me how one uses the balloon chucks to polish pivots. A photo or video of one in use would be great, but even a description would help. Is the polishing done with a file? If so do you support the backside of the pivot? What kind of speed on the lathe, or do you even run the motor?
July 10, 2015, 17:47
Patrick Wallin
If it's really bad I use a fingernail file to smooth it into shape on the lathe, then I will switch to a very fine stone and finally a piece of leather glued to a stick. Some times I will use fine grit automotive rubbing compound on the strip of leather. Remember to clean the leather when you are done.
July 10, 2015, 19:14
Mike Benda
Yes Dave, having trouble with this visualization also .
It seems like the pivot is inserted in the balloon, with the small end protruding out the end?
This is a page from "the watchmakers lathe" by Goodrich and is free online.