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IHC Member 2075
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I was looking and ended up the owner of a fusee pocket watch , with a broken chain but a good balance , and it looks like a diamond end stone , could I get some help on date of this watch . The name on it is M N Wheatley of new castle on the tyne , I guess it's an e-bauche ?thanks Kevin

 
Posts: 1574 | Location: Maryland in the USA | Registered: June 04, 2015
IHC Member 2075
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dial is nice although hands are broken

 
Posts: 1574 | Location: Maryland in the USA | Registered: June 04, 2015
IHC Member 2075
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the case may tell the date , with a lion on top , under it is G.J.O , on the left is an unreadable shield? to the right is a capital old english M

 
Posts: 1574 | Location: Maryland in the USA | Registered: June 04, 2015
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unfortunately I did not find MN Wheatley, only William ,in 1893/9, maybe he was the son ?. The case with the hallmark of London and the date is 1867.
hope this help enrico
 
Posts: 25 | Location: Torino in Italy | Registered: January 28, 2014
IHC Member 2075
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Thank you Enrico , would this watch style have been in use in 1867 ? or does it look newer ?
 
Posts: 1574 | Location: Maryland in the USA | Registered: June 04, 2015
IHC Member 1555
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Hi Kevin, there was a "Wheatley & Dove" a going concern during 1877, situated on "Scotswood Road", "Newcastle upon Tyne", I would say this will be your man or menSmile
 
Posts: 2173 | Location: Gladstone in Australia | Registered: January 14, 2011
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it was made in the coventry area, here an article by David Boettcher on English watchmaking.


http://www.vintagewatchstraps....glishwatchmaking.php

regards enrico
 
Posts: 25 | Location: Torino in Italy | Registered: January 28, 2014
IHC Member 2030
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Good article, thanks.
Here is another site
Watch
Mike
 
Posts: 1104 | Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia in the USA | Registered: February 08, 2015
IHC Member 2075
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Thanks Mike and enrico , I took the watch apart it is only the barrel hook is missing , the chain should still be long enough ,the rest is pristine , I am really impressed at the workmanship. So it needs a chain or repair , a crystal and hands , the case has a couple dings . I am not sure whether I am keeping it , it is an oddball in my collection.
 
Posts: 1574 | Location: Maryland in the USA | Registered: June 04, 2015
IHC Member 2075
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Well I just had to fiddle , i saw a video on servicing a fusee and went to work , this is a lever escapement so it was not to different than a regular watch , just pins instaed of screws
, it did have a broken pivot for the pallet , although it is working , I was able to pin the chain to the barrell , the only item that seems off is the fusee cone , it seems to slip some, I took it apart and it has some wear to the teeth , like it was wound wrong , but after cleaning it seems to hold a wind . I have a feeling all these problems occurred by the last person to take it apart, it looks like they put a mainspring in , but the pallet pivot is a dead give away. I will set this to the side maybe a nice winter project or parts movement, it is running but these other items need attention

 
Posts: 1574 | Location: Maryland in the USA | Registered: June 04, 2015
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the breakup of the pivot of the pallet is an inexperience of whom has opened the movement, provoking the breakup of the pivot, it is a frequent breakup. as the usury of the fusée. sometimes succeeds crushing the teeth of the click spring inside the fusée
regards enrico
 
Posts: 25 | Location: Torino in Italy | Registered: January 28, 2014
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