The resemblance to an 1883 Waltham can make you wonder.
But then the lack of the number of jewels claimed, lack of quality finish and the unfinished, uncut balance are once again give-aways. And then we move to the movement number. This is no different than poorly done counterfeit currency where they all have the same number. I can almost quote that fake movement number 785630 from memory. Below, yet another number 785630 with the same dubious features.
Please, put it out of its misery... let's tie it to a firecracker!
Another number 785630 and this one is at least cleaner...
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to the movement number. This is no different than poorly done counterfeit currency where they all have the same number. 
I can almost quote that fake movement number 785630 from memory. Below, yet another 
number 785630 with the same dubious features. 
