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Hampden 16S Grade 108 "Click" to Login or Register 
IHC Member 1357
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I just purchased this 16s.grade108,17jewel,nickel,bridge in a stainless steel case,circa 1912.Were stainless steel cases common back then?Roger

 
Posts: 4094 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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Movement

 
Posts: 4094 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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cover
 
Posts: 4094 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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Here is the back cover

 
Posts: 4094 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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Very nice little carry watch Roger Smile

It has been recased into a terrific durable case as opposed to its original gold filled or silveroid case from that era. The correct case would be a tall pendant style in any of the manufacturers or materials. The case it now lives in is from possibly a mid thirties to sixties era Wink

regards,
bb
 
Posts: 6376 | Location: Texas in the USA | Registered: July 27, 2009
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Thanks Buster.I can not discern any ghost screw marks on the case but I suppose if it were anew case when the movement was put in then there would not be any other marks.The case is marked Star Watch Case Co. stainless steel 4379856.Thanks again Buster
 
Posts: 4094 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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Roger,
That's a nice looking watch. Stainless steel was just being developed in the U.S. around that time period. I'm guessing the watch case is a few decades newer than the movement. The style of the watch case is one of the best clues as to dating a particular watch case. When stainless steel started to be used for pocket watch cases is an interesting subject and it would be great if anyone knows the answer?
RR
 
Posts: 1413 | Location: Fremont, California in the USA | Registered: February 06, 2010
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Thanks Richard for your input and yes I would like to know the answer to that myself.Roger
 
Posts: 4094 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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Roger

Does the case have one or two lever cuts in it?

Tom
 
Posts: 5107 | Location: New Mexico in the USA | Registered: January 27, 2007
IHC Member 1338
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I'd say that case was from the 1940-50s. I've seen the same case marked "cased and timed by elgin" that they cased 1950s BW Raymond 571's in. For that hampden 108, it's a great case. You can't go wrong with it, any RR looks good in it and unless you have a 1500-3000 collector railroad in it who cares? Myself, I would take a nice non original case over a well worn original one any day. IMHO.


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Posts: 3041 | Location: Ramsey, Illinois in the USA | Registered: December 15, 2008
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Hey Tom the case has 2 lever cuts in it
 
Posts: 4094 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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The case is really nice and the watch is keeping very good time.People really do like the look of old with new.
 
Posts: 4094 | Location: Carbon, Texas in the USA | Registered: January 24, 2010
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Just picked up this Hampden 105, Serial Number 3305169, ca. 1915. It's re-cased in a cool Star stainless steel replacement case similar to that in Roger's original 2010 post. (It does have two lever slot cutaways.) I showed it to my wife Sally (who generously tolerates my hobby and its expense) and asked her if she thought I should put it in a case that is closer to the age of the watch. She said that was up to me, but she thought the lines in the case really accentuated the marginal minutes. She's got a great eye for designed, and I gotta say I agree with her. Anyway, I thought folks might be interested in seeing another one of these replacement cases resurface.

 
Posts: 1088 | Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota in the USA | Registered: October 15, 2013
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Another shot.

 
Posts: 1088 | Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota in the USA | Registered: October 15, 2013
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Nice looking 105 Mike. They are very nice watches.
 
Posts: 2032 | Location: San Diego, California in the USA | Registered: August 30, 2012
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These stainless steel cases are nice for a wear watch. I have a few of these and I never shy away from picking one up.
 
Posts: 1797 | Location: Michigan in the USA | Registered: September 19, 2009
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After reading the resurrected "Moorehouse" dial discussion, I am thinking that my reference to a "resurfaced" stainless RR case was a bit much . . .
 
Posts: 1088 | Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota in the USA | Registered: October 15, 2013
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Great discussion about great looking "carry" cases. The term "stainless" is probably very loosely applied to these cases. While they are definitely stainless, so are most pre-WWII high nickel steel alloys.

So more important is the actual age. We know that the (Star W.C.Co.-produced) Stainless Steel-cased Hamilton 992B's appeared in the early 1950's and show some similarity to these Star W.C.Co.-signed cases. That would date these cases closer to when more malleable Stainless alloys had emerged commercially from WWII-developed metallurgy.
 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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Very interesting analysis, David. So, you think this a '50s vintage case?
 
Posts: 1088 | Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota in the USA | Registered: October 15, 2013
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Post-WWII and probably early 50's.
 
Posts: 6492 | Location: Southern California in the USA | Registered: July 19, 2007
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