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Elgin 571 with Black Dial

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March 20, 2012, 16:40
Joey Hamm
Elgin 571 with Black Dial
Not sure exactly what this is. I realize this is an elgin 571 but what about the black dial. Do you think this is an original to the watch? Also, is the watch worth $69?
Thanks for any information,
Joey


March 20, 2012, 16:46
Joey Hamm
Movement Picture.


March 20, 2012, 17:24
Tom Brown
Can't answer the question about the dial except it looks like it was luminous when new, but I would happily give $69.00 for it.
March 20, 2012, 17:25
Jerry King
Joey, the dial looks original to me and the watch is surely worth $69.00....In fact if you want to sell it for that, I'll buy it....

I have seen black dials on the 571 before, it's been awhile and they are not common....

Regards,

Jerry
March 20, 2012, 17:49
Joey Hamm
This was an ebay purchase. The watch had a bad balance staff. The balance staff has been replaced and the watch keeps great time. Do you have any ideal what year the watch was manufactured? I am not having any luck with the elgin d-base. The watch appears to be in great shape, have any ideal on its value???
Thanks for all the input,
Joey
March 20, 2012, 18:09
Richard M. Jones
Joey I would put the value at 125 since it is a working watch. The dial is probably luminous originally but is definitely neat.


Deacon
March 20, 2012, 19:17
Richard W. Fulkerson
Hi Joey, I think your 571 is from 1951. The S in the serial number should translate to 50 making the serial number 50953748.

Richard
March 20, 2012, 19:39
David Abbe
What does the case back have on it? This could be used for Military activities, Korea?
March 20, 2012, 21:05
Joey Hamm
Thanks for all the input. As far as the case goes, it is stainless with no markings. The inside is labeled elgin. Where most black dials used for our military?
Joey


March 21, 2012, 06:58
Eugene Buffard
I'll take 10 at $69. each even with Bad staffs.
Oh This is the wrong year to order them. Eek

I truly think that watch in working condition would be worth be closer to $150 - $175. but of coarse it would take that special buyer. They did not make to many Black faced B. W. Raymond. Of coarse the would only be correct if the dial is factory made.
March 21, 2012, 14:33
Jerry King
Joey, Our price book has the BW Raymond, Gr. 571 priced at $200 - $225 - $425.... to the correct buyer, yours would possibly be worth more....

Regards,

Jerry