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I just got my first Hamilton 990!

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November 04, 2011, 16:08
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
I just got my first Hamilton 990!
I just got my first Hamilton 990! I had never even seen one until it arrived today. What a gorgeous watch! I personally like it a lot better than the 992's. I like the old style 992's but this is far and away much prettier movement IMHO. This 990 comes serviced and in a Hamilton display case. I have never been one to collect display cases but at least it shows of a gorgeous movement. The dial is trash but I have some nice Hamilton dials all I have to do is make sure I put the right dial with it. It is a 1904 model s/n 356146.
November 04, 2011, 17:36
Dan Carter
I like that movement too. The amount of detail is impressive. I put mine into a display case as well just to show off the movement.
November 04, 2011, 18:10
Claude Griffith
If you check the specifications you will see not only is the 990 a prettier movement it is a much better movement and often overlooked because people get so hung up on the 992s. I have two 990s the double and single screw version, I think there might be some other variations but those are the most obvious.
November 04, 2011, 18:33
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Hi Claude can you explain what the double and single screw version mean. I know one thing it means I have to find the other versions.

Harry
November 04, 2011, 19:32
Mike Hodge
That 990 is, as you say, a gorgeous movement. Yours will take a 4 post dial, so be careful when you search for one. It should also be a double sunk one. There is a reproduction on ebay right now and if you are interested I CAN SEND A LINK OFF OF PW DISCUSSIONS. The real thingss can be difficult to find in decent shape, not to mention, costly.
November 04, 2011, 20:16
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Hi Mike,
Please send me the link. I already have a Swiss fake double sunk dial but the numbers are kind of small. I'll look at it. I have one 4 foot dial double sunk and it has been repaired. It is 1000% better than what's on there though. All the rest of my four foot dials are single sunk dials.

Thank,
Harry
November 04, 2011, 21:03
Eric Unselt
Pretty, aren't they?


November 04, 2011, 21:20
Dan Carter
They sure are! The double screws over the crown wheel are what Claude was referring to. Seems like the newer models moved to a single screw. Mine has an all gold train best I can tell. I wonder if that was only for the older double screw models, or for the newer single screw models as well?
November 04, 2011, 21:28
David Abbe
My comments stand as per my 2008 post;The Hamilton 990 was a far better finished piece in my opinin. Here I compare my 990 to a WWII vintage 992B and you can easily see there was much greater time spent skillfully detailing the 990. They are rare and beautiful, and often ignored in the pell-mell rush to collect 992's. The trains and bridges are quite different, few parts will correctly interchange.


November 04, 2011, 21:29
David Abbe
There were about 16,500 990's made as opposed to the 1m+ 992's, no doubt much was changed for the 992 model, but the mechanical artistry and sheer beauty of the 990 was left behind when the 992 went into production.


November 04, 2011, 22:06
Claude Griffith
If you look at Dave's first picture and look at the small wind wheel it has two screws, Hamilton changed this later to a single screw much like the 992B. I have picked up both of mine 990's for less that the typical 992,again that all depends on condtion and case but in many cases people appear to pass the 990 by.
November 04, 2011, 22:35
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Thank you Dave for sharing your photos. I have a new 992 much like the one in your photo of the 992B. I do not care much for that design I much prefer the old model 992 which I have two of. I just got the newer 992 because I did not have one.
I MUCH prefer my 990. Now all I need is a 4 foot dial. This dial is not in great shape but from a foot away it looks pretty good. I have two dozen Hamilton dials and the only one I have that should go with this movement I repaired. It is better than the one that is on it. I can put a double sunk Swiss dial on it BUT...

Thank you Claude and Dan and Dave for explaining the double screws to me. Mine is a double screw model with gold train and gold jewel holders.

Eric beautiful photography on your 990. I wish I could take photos like that!
November 04, 2011, 22:36
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Mike I did not get an attachment or link in the email you sent me.

Harry
November 05, 2011, 02:23
Robert McClelland
Harry congratulations on getting the 990. I was one of the loosing bidders on that one. I'm glad it went to an IHC member who appreciates it. I agree with Mike that you may have a hard time finding a 4 foot dial but I have seen a couple nice ones sell on eBay for reasonable prices in the past couple weeks. There is reproduction 4 foot Montgomery dial on eBay now that I will send you a link for.

Bob
November 05, 2011, 09:03
Claude Griffith
The other option is to find a parts lower jewel Hamilton that falls into the serial number range for the 4 foot dial. That is what I did, someone was selling a Hamilton 17j (can remember which) that came with a double sunk dial and was in the 4 foot serial number range and I picked it up for less than $30, clean the dial which was near flawless and got a parts movement as a bonus for the future.
November 05, 2011, 13:45
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Thank you Robert and Claude. I will try both of your suggestions. I looked at my 974's and I have one that the s/n is 874,??? and it has a 4 foot dial and I believe that is the upper limit on 4 foot dials.

Sorry about beating you out on the bidding.
November 05, 2011, 15:11
Lindell V. Riddle

Harry, you are correct about the time-frame when Hamilton four-foot dials were being phased out. We peg it around the 872000 area on the 992 movements which makes that a good number to remember.

Now, here is an earlier Hamilton 990 topic with additional information, images and links...

CLICK FOR: Hamilton 990 dial question

Wink

November 05, 2011, 15:19
Theodore J. Brown Sr.
Nice one,Harry!Those really are a work of art...996's and 972's are also pretty elaborate, maybe a close second to a 990.I'll never understand the frenzy over 992B's,when you can get a drop-dead gorgeous 990 for less!Regards, Ted.
November 05, 2011, 16:41
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
I like both the 996 and 972. They are very nice watches. I have one 996 and a couple 972's. Here is a photo of my 990. Of course it needs a dial.


November 05, 2011, 16:43
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
And the rear.


November 05, 2011, 18:31
Mike Hodge
Nice marked 990 movement. Good stuff.
November 05, 2011, 18:48
Harry J. Hyaduck Sr.
Thanks Mike.