Elgin 4 1/2 Foot Display

Does anyone know a link where I can view a pic of Elgin's 83 movement display? I'd sure like to copy the info and make one of my own. That would be nice on my wall-right over my mother-in law's picture.

Marty
Do you mean an Elgin 16S model 4 with the sweep second hand?

Tom

Sorry Tom!

This is info in the Guide,page 178 at the bottom: "Important note-most production DATES for this section of Elgin are from a photograph of a 4-1/2 foot display made bt Elgin with 83 movements etc.."

I've always wanted a pic of this to copy and enlarge; I was hoping for something,somewhere...

Marty

Sorry I misread your question, I thought you were asking about a certain grade.

Tom

No trouble,Tom-But wouldn't that display be nice? Somewhere there's a pic' of a pic'-or something.

Marty. Would it be large enough to cover up your mother-in-law's picture?
Marty, seriously, write to Sheila, she is wonderful at finding things.

Go to;

http://www.elginhistory.org/

Get in touch with them, and they can probably help you. In fact if they want, we could arrange for a reprint series of that display.

Dave,thanks-I'll try both.'

You know that made me laugh, I remember the Christmas my mother-in-law sent everyone in the family framed 8x10 photographs of herself to each family member & since I have two kids, I got 4 8X10's. That was her entire gift list. By the way gram if you ready this, only joking!

Sweet Lord-Tom,my mother-in-law did the same thing. That's the very best I can say-I will tell no more.

Marty and everyone the Elgin display with 83 movements, (first produced) was in the Time Museum at Rockford Ill.. Not sure where it is now.
Cooksey

Thank you, Cooksey. I'm going to ask Sheila if she can get a copy of it; at least now I have something to give her as a starting point.

Hi Marty,

Well, I spent forever trying to find out anything about this one, and no luck. I thought about trying to contact Sotheby's to see if the display was auctined with the other clock and watch pieces they sold for the Time Museum. That was back in Oct. of 2004, so there is no telling if they have the information, or even if it was a part of the original display. It may have been a part of another collection that was combined with the finer clocks and watches.
Anyway, I will keep at it, but this is one that may be one of those tucked away, no written connection items.
It would be nice to see the display.

Well,thanks for trying,Sheila! I know from reading your posts that you've managed to dig up a lot of info for people. If you haven't found it then you're probably right,it's buried or auctioned off-I didn't even know about the auction,that means it could be anywhere!

I guess that I got the impression something so useful would have been copied;but when I first asked around the response I got was "what display?"

Who knows-maybe it'll turn up! Thanks again-

Since Cooksey got a lot of data from this display, perhaps he has a photo of it too!

Marty, I FOUND IT! Sotheby's Auction 2004

I found it!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lot 1022

Went for $19,200.00

Sold at Sotheby's October 15, 2004

Title:
Elgin Nat'l Watch Co., a glazed display case of Elgin watch movements dating from 1867 and numbered 101 to 1939 and 37,869,001

Provenance
Time Museum inventory No. 315

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and

If you want to see all the OUTSTANDING pieces from the Time Museum check it out here.

http://browse.sothebys.com/?&cat=1&event_id=26937&g=1&i...dp=Watches&is_past=1

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I don't believe! Amazing,Sheila! So quickly,too-I hope I can find a "Pansy" someday to repay you!
How did you do it? Thank you twice, you're the best!

Sheila, you are amazing!

Think we could get pictures showing the watches, tags and other details?

Don

Don-If you hit Sheila's link you can register at Sotheby's;they emailed me right away and I got in using the info Sheila provided-lot number 1022, and date Oct. 15,2004-

The link takes you right to the 2004 auction.

They start right on that page at the bottom of what shows up.

I linked the page with the picture information on that link before Marty posted this one.

I got excited about seeing it too!
only wish there was a better picture, but this is about as good as we're going to get.

This link is to the Elgin Display


http://www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?g=Te...039&live_lot_id=1022

Way to go Sheila!

I was trying to beat you at finding it but I knew I was no match for the Master.

Did you notice the auction estimate & then what it sold for, I wonder who bought it?

There should be a photo of it in the catalog "Sotheby's sale catalog for its New York October 15-15, 2004". I found where a copy of the catalog had been for sell on ebay back in May but no one bought it. I don't know if the photo in the catalog would be any better but it is a possibility.

Tom

Tom,
I had posted a picture here on page one, and in another new link to it, but Marty missed the new topic and everything is linked here anyway, but we got it!

Makes no difference, I share ALL that I get and have no problem with sending things everywhere so everyone can take a look.

I got to come right back in and post the picture because it was already in the right size for the board. I love when that happens.

I did see the starting price, pretty big jump!

Now, if we could just see it better.


There are some pretty amazing watches in that auction, and I sure would like to save all the pictures. Now THAT'S a collection!

The picture you and I posted is the one from the catalog, so I don't know if the actual catalog will be much better.

Fun to find these things!

But the better part is in the SHARING.

Sheila

I guess I should have looked up the page, I think I check this site every few minutes but some how I still miss some of the posts. I edited mine & took the photo out, sorry about that.

I found the catalog for sale on ebay & bought it, I will let you know if it has a better photo.

Tom

Oh wow, I was going to look too!

Great buy! Let us know when you get it.

If the pictures are good post them OK?

Exciting!

Will do!

I use to run a photo lab at the crime lab & if the photo is any good I might be able to blow it up into poster size.

I have been reading about the auction since reading your post. There was a guy by the name of Cameel Halim who spent about 3.7 million at the auction. I was wondering if he bought the orginal display, so far I have found where he loans out part of the collection to different places but I have not found a mention of the Elgin display.

Tom

Oh wow, I didn't go that far, sounds interesting, and I sure wish I could spend that much on watches.

If you can blow up the photo from the book picture, that would be fantastic.

My program did enlarge it, but you know how that goes, pretty yucky by the time you get the size you want.

I can't wait for you to get the book, so let us know when it gets to you.

Will do, the auction at Southerby's actually was put into three catalogs about the watches, I bought all three, 700+ pages, I thought it would be neat to look at & dream of what I would buy if I was rich. Some of the photos on the ebay site from the catalog look fantastic.

Tom

My!!! What a wonderful place this is.

Tom,that is fantastic news; Both that you bought the catalog and may be able to blow it up. I sure hope the pic's are clear enough to make out; we'd really have a treasure.

Marty

Got the catalog today & it is a better photo but they put it in the seam of the book, I am not sure if I can copy it, I will need to take the catalog apart to see. I will let you know, I might also try contacting Southerby's, perhaps they still have the negative & would share it. Thats a long shot but might be the way to go.

Tom