Internet Horology Club 185
Alright masters of the Universe

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September 10, 2013, 12:31
Jon Hart
Alright masters of the Universe
Alright masters of the Universe

Clue #1

Picture and size of movement in mm

Care to take a stab at brand and size?

And how you reached your conclusion Smile

Some good clues within Smile


September 10, 2013, 12:48
Peter Kaszubski
I will take the 5th on this one
since Im the master of the universe Big Grin
September 10, 2013, 12:56
Francesco Marco Maraschin
Ill go with it being a Hamilton (just a guess).
September 10, 2013, 12:59
William D. White
16 size Elgin? I haven't had a watch apart for a few years but it just looks familiar. Also hunting and pendant set.

He-Man
September 10, 2013, 13:12
Dave Turner
I'm with William.


Dave Turner
September 10, 2013, 13:18
Douglas D. Weaver
I agree that it is 16-size Elgin. Plus, it's a hunter.
September 10, 2013, 13:39
Gerald Zimmermann
Hunter is ok

41.88 mm is closer to 18.5 ligne + perlage

--> swiss ?

Gerald
September 10, 2013, 14:01
Claude Griffith
I will hang with Mr. White with one slight difference rather than Elgin I think it is Elgin Export. Elgin made a few grades that they exported mostly to the UK, when you put them in a normal US 16 size they tend to swim a bit. So on my two (hunter and open face) 16s export models that only 300 were made of each and I have to use the typical UK cases rather than the US 16s cases. I will toss that one out there just for yuks.
September 10, 2013, 14:20
Gerald Zimmermann
14s Elgins ?

Gerald
September 10, 2013, 15:02
Claude Griffith
well not 14s but maybe those oddball 12s Lord Elgins that they made, which the 19j was the most common. My earlier guess is wrong since those export models were 17j and would not have a gold center wheel which this one appears to have. The these 12s Lord Elgins came only in open face, in a special case, and it seems there was also a GM Wheeler grade that is the same general shape and size but they won't fit a standard 12s case because they are larger. All three are in the 45X grade range.
September 10, 2013, 18:08
Eric Unselt
Rockford.
September 10, 2013, 20:46
Jon Hart
Clue #2

A serial #


September 10, 2013, 20:48
Jon Hart
Clue 3

Dial side up


September 10, 2013, 21:11
Claude Griffith
well the serial number tips it off for an Elgin grade 152 a 15j version of the 155/154/153 3/4 plate grade hunter movement.
September 11, 2013, 00:46
Bob Murray
And a broad arrow. Purchased by the UK Ministry of Defence?

Regards,
Bob
September 11, 2013, 09:07
Jon Hart
Bob - I wondering the same thing