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WALTHAM, LET'S SEE YOUR FAVORITE! (PART TWO) "Click" to Login or Register 
IHC Life Member
Picture of Claude Girardin
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This is my favourite, out of our Waltham Memorial Collection. Has any one of you a survey of how many of those movements have been produced and their respective serial numbers and whereabouts?

Best regards

 
Posts: 168 | Location: Nidau-Biel/Bienne, Switzerland | Registered: July 06, 2004
Picture of Jim McKinney
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Eek Hi, Claude . . . Thanks, for the very interesting photo. Cool

What is the serial number for this watch, please ?
 
Posts: 231 | Location: Northern Virginia in the U.S.A. | Registered: April 10, 2004
Picture of Tom McIntyre
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The serial number No. 11 is just below the balance.

Claude there was an article by Gerit Nijssen last year about the crystal plate Walthams.

There are also a pair of them in the upcoming Sotheby's auction of the time museum collection.
 
Posts: 633 | Location: Boston, Massachusetts USA | Registered: November 25, 2002
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Watchmaker
Picture of Samie L. Smith
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these crystal plate watches are very interesting and i think show the beautiful work that was done at the waltham factory.

What was the material used for the plates on these stone mountain movements ,was it rock crystal or just a crystal plate like is used to make vases etc..
 
Posts: 3208 | Location: Monticello, Kentucky U.S.A. | Registered: June 24, 2004
IHC Life Member
Picture of Claude Girardin
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Dear Tom,
Appreciating your precious information about Sotheby's sale. Wow, what an auction! I just wonder why the Time Museum has to part with all those treasures?

Best regards
Claude
 
Posts: 168 | Location: Nidau-Biel/Bienne, Switzerland | Registered: July 06, 2004
Picture of Tom McIntyre
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The Atwood family retired from the museum business several years ago and had arranged a transfer of the collection to the city of Chicago. The fund raising for tne new Chicago Time Museum fell apart and the material is all being disposed of.

One needs the catalogs of the collection to appreciate what is actually being sold in the American watch lots. The book by Donald Hoke provides both the basic information and a lot of condition information as well that is missing from the Sotheby's catalog.

Hoke's book also has many errors and in particular he is confused about American gold case marks and calls many wonderful gold cases gold filled. Apparently when he was working on the book he had read the Dueber misinformation on the subject and believed it. He was not given an opportunity to have external review or a final edit pass of the book (which he deeply regrets).
 
Posts: 633 | Location: Boston, Massachusetts USA | Registered: November 25, 2002
IHC Life Member
Picture of Claude Girardin
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What a pitty that this historical treasure is going to be scattered.

I assume that Hoke's book you refer to is: "American Pocket Watches". That's where I read that a "Olathe Watch Co" was sold to an Osaka Watch Company at the turn of the previous Century, which later was merged with Seiko. I would like to obtain more information on part of Mr. Hoke. Can you please tell me how I can reach him?

Appreciation your kind assistance.
 
Posts: 168 | Location: Nidau-Biel/Bienne, Switzerland | Registered: July 06, 2004
Picture of Tom McIntyre
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I gave Claude Don Hoke's contact information.

For the benefit of the confused, it was the Otay Watch Co. that was sold to the Japanese and became the Osaka Watch Co.
 
Posts: 633 | Location: Boston, Massachusetts USA | Registered: November 25, 2002
IHC Life Member
Picture of Claude Girardin
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Tom, appreciating your correcting my confusion and your further indication. I am interested in establishing the links between Waltham and the Japanese as well as the Swiss watch industries in those days, where all that had to be invented for its industrialisation came from U.S.A.
 
Posts: 168 | Location: Nidau-Biel/Bienne, Switzerland | Registered: July 06, 2004
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