Internet Horology Club 185
Waltham Gr 845 Mdl 1892
December 29, 2010, 21:37
Bill MandersWaltham Gr 845 Mdl 1892
Hi all,
Just received a Grade 845 Mdl 1892, and have been looking at it. This watch has a star regulator, and I was wondering if they all do ?? As I look on the large auction site and elsewhere I have noted as many that do have this regulator, there are as many that do not. Should they all have the star regulator ??
Bill
December 29, 2010, 22:06
Theodore J. Brown Sr.Hi Bill,The later 92 model RR grade Walthams had the "Olsen" regulator instead of the gold star wheel type on the earlier ones.The same style regulator was used on the 16S 1908 models also.Hope this helps! Regards, Ted.
January 02, 2011, 15:21
Bud MellessHi Bill;
Being new to all this still I haven't a clue but here's an 18 s 845 Model 1892 with a glass back that I just bought a couple of weeks ago. It has serial # 17018959 but I can't find out what year it was made. Anyone know how to find out?
Thanks
Bud
January 02, 2011, 15:47
Cecil McGeeLook at the tag attached to the bow. c1908 = 1908
January 02, 2011, 15:51
Bill MandersHi Bud,
according to the guide, I think yours is about 1908.
I see yours also has the other regulator, I guess Olsen style.
January 02, 2011, 15:53
Bill Mandersmvmt
This is mine with the star regulator.
Thanks for the info Ted and Bud.
January 02, 2011, 16:49
Theodore J. Brown Sr.Bill, I just also got one of these after wanting one for years!Mine's a 15 mil. serial number, like yours, has the gold star wheel regulator, and also has the "5 positions" marking.These are a really sharp looking movement.I don't know if it's true, but I've heard that the regulator "star" on the high grade Walthams is supposed to be 14K gold.I think that up in Canada,where Waltham RR watches were really popular, there must have been a lot of 845's used in RR service....Ted.
January 02, 2011, 17:16
Bill MandersHi Ted,
Yes they appear to be rather fancier damanskeening on the earlier ones, etc. I do not know if they had a solid gold star or not someone might be able to answer that ???
I was just looking at mine again and noted it has a diamond end stone, and again am wondering if the earlier ones all had that, or conversly how did they pick the ones that did have them ?????
Sure nice looking watches either way, and I have a few RR grade watches not neccesarily Walthams from Cdn RR service, but I think you're right the Walthams seemed to be a favorite here. Always interesting this collecting of watches.
Bill
January 02, 2011, 18:36
Bud Mellessha ha, thanks Cecil, now why didn't I think of that. I was so excited when the watch arrived I'd not even looked at the tag.
Bud
January 02, 2011, 18:39
Bud MellessYou're quite welcome Bill, and I'm actually quite happy that I can be of some help to someone after all the help I've received here. It made my whole day in fact.
Bud
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mvmt2.
This is mine with the star regulator.
Thanks for the info Ted and Bud.
January 02, 2011, 18:52
Bud MellessHi Bill;
Actually I can't tell if there's really much difference between them. Perhaps my earlier photo that I took off the eBay listing where I won it is poor. I just took this one about five minutes ago.
Also, please excuse the glare. I should have removed the glass back but was just too lazy.
The only thing I'm a little upset about is the mess some
butcher made of the screw on that larger gear (sorry, I don't know what it's called).
Bud
quote:
Hi Ted,
Yes they appear to be rather fancier damanskeening on the earlier ones, etc.
January 02, 2011, 20:05
Bill MandersBUd,
Yes upon looking now the damaskeening looks almost the same, the only difference I can really see, is the star regulator, that is of course to my untrained eyes. They are really nice watches though. It is the only 845 I have, I have several Cresxent streets, Vanguards,645'5, Riversides, and was fortunate to pick this up just in the past couple of weeks, a nice addistion to my ever growing collection. I am going to have to start making decisions and figure wht I really want to go after, I have quite a collection of Elgin RR's, with some Balls and Hamiltons also. I think I will maybe start getting rtid of some of my non RR grade watches, just having problems doing it.
Oh Well, as you are finding out watch collecting is definitely addictive.
Bill
January 03, 2011, 19:10
Bud MellessHi Bill;
Let me know what you have an I may be interested. Always interested in hunter cased Elgins or Walthams, Columbus etc.
Regards
Bud
quote:
I think I will maybe start getting rtid of some of my non RR grade watches, just having problems doing it.
Oh Well, as you are finding out watch collecting is definitely addictive.