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can anyone tell me the difference between the (block letter adjusted) and the {cursive lettering adjusted} on an 18 size movement Columbus

I am not aware of a difference except in design. If you believe there is an difference, please expound so it may be discussed further.

Regards,
bb

Yes, I found the same as Buster.

In Show Us Your Columbus all of the adjusted notations seem to be block letters.

Can you post a photo?

not sure about all this but here goes

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For example, all the high grade movements in the special run from 500,000 - 506,000 are "printed" letters - ADJUSTED...

Here is sub 100k serial # w/ ADJUSTED

From high grade run 500k-506k

Ron, cool, that is the first script one I have seen. Can you provide the serial number?

The one I have wasn't even adjusted but the previous owner did a little upgrade and scratched it in himself

One of my Columbus's Railway King has a printed "ADJUSTED". It is Serial #312834 on a two tone movement. It has a safety pinion, size 18 Silverode case. It had Columbus Railway King on the dial and the movement. It has Roman Numerals on the dial with SOB Bezel and case and a double sunk dial.

My other Columbus Railway King pocket watch has a Choo-Choo dial in a size 18, 16 jewels, double sunk dials with Roman Numerals. It is a 4 oz. Sterling Silver American Waltham Case. The date is 1899, a two tone movement, Serial #345,239 and is lever set. "Adjusted" is printed like the first pocket watch.

Your first picture of the "Adjusted" in script, looks like a possible addition after it left the factory to me. But then I am not a Columbus scholar, so take me like a grain of salt. If I had to "surrender" a guess, my guess would be that the watch, if the "adjusted" is a factory addition it might be 1902 as it reminds me of font that Studebaker might have used around then.

Sorry to not be of much help, but please always enter the serial number when you are looking for answers.

regards,
bb

Hi Ron,

These are not very often seen with the fancy script, but they do exist marked like this from the factory.

I have seen the fancy script previous on a few of these, looks like it has the whiplash regulator and if it is the 15 jewel version it was RR grade in it's day.

Can you please advise of the serial number?


cheers,
bila

regulator is whiplash and #117658 thanks for info, I have a few more of these with script adjusted, when I come across them I will post them serial #s Ron Granneman aka ebay barberr

Could you please post a photo of the complete movement Ron, I need to see the Jewel settings and other features that might be pertinent?

Here ya go - Bila...

Thanks Jon, is that lever or pendant set Ron?

I have a couple dozen Columbus pocket watches, some from 1870s, '80s, '90s, and '00s, but I don't think any of them have "Adjusted" in cursive script. I'll have to take another look when I get home from Florida, where the thermometer hit a chilly 72 degrees today .

Here's a question, though. I've always assumed that text and numerical markings on the plates of my Columbus watches --- e.g., "Columbus Watch Co.", "Safety Pinion," "Adjusted," and the movement serial number, etc., were stamped into the plates rather than engraved... EXCEPT for the early Swiss movements imported by Dietrich Gruen, which look more engraved. Do you think this is correct?

Dennis, glad to see your posting and I hope all is well. Manu of the "engravings" are actually "stamps", however that said, they were not (usually) "hammered" in, but rather compression stamped "slowly" and to a limit of pressure. So it was more like "embossing" the pattern. As the watch plates were nickel, this was a perfect way to "coin" in a very complex pattern. Some glaring exceptions would be the beautifully intricate artwork on many of the Aurora movements where the distinct details make it clear they were actually diamond or tool steel engraved . . .

I just had a quick browse of the movements I have and of some descriptions of watches in Company ads and picture plates from Meggers & Ehrhardt books I have.

What I can discern (could be barking up the wrong tree, but here goes), the "cursive script seem to appear through runs from the mid 25,000 through to the early 122,000 serial numbers.

The block scripts seem to appear through out most serial number runs ranging from 126,000 and upwards serial number runs.

Please be aware that there are probably exceptions to this and also that I am baseing this info on only the watches I have (only a small sample) or have seen as well as the advertising data and also the researchers that have done previous work.

Ron's watch looks to be either a Grade 63 or 95 if it is a genuine open face watch (not side winder) or Grade 23 or 34 if in the hunter configuration. The only difference between the designated grades in both the open face and hunter seem to be single and double sunk dial variations.

As for your question Dennis I do not know if the markings were stamped or engraved, as I do not have any info relating to this.


Regards to All.

just came across another Columbus with cursive adjusted on hunter movement check pics

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